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Old 9th June 2013, 01:46 PM
Rinconpaul Rinconpaul is offline
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Originally Posted by beton
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Thanks for your posts. Informative. You are laying a horse, dutch laying the field and/or dutch backing the field or no bet as your options. As an integral part of this is your %WSR sheet. Hence if at say 1 minute to jump the odds are $1.30 for the fav, then your sheet says go and do "this". This is after having ascertained that you have the selection ticked off as a selection

I have thoughts along similar lines but differ on dutching the field either laying or backing. So I am interested.

Firstly I would like to know what we can do and what we can't do and what bot we need. You are dutching at SP so the bot works out a ratio at jump -5 secs and comes up with $25 at $4 odds so you get $25 at the SP of $3.80. thus the slippage. Is there any benefit keeping the dutch bets in play. What happens to the bets still in play? Do they get matched? Do the reasonable ones get matched and the unreasonable one just expire (no match no bet no outlay)?

So what would be the outcome if say you got the ranking from the openers then put in the lay side the following 1st fav $30 @$2 lay, 2nd fav $25 @$3 lay, 3rd fav $20 @$4 etc pro rata to the openers. These are all unders. Then you also dutched the back side. Or at least just the top 90% But you did not do this at SP. You did it at say 1st fav $30 @ $4 2nd fav $25 @ $6 3rd fav $20 @ $9. Etc. These are all overs. Ultimately the figures are the %WSR plus a margin up and a margin down so you would end up with a spread. At just before jump you have an option to cancel or keep or take SP
and green up as required. Could this work and what bot could do it?
Beton, a reply like yours makes it all worthwhile! I know that I have limited experience and beleive me I'm happy that you've raised so many queries to perfect this system even more.

To specifics, as a rule, I seldom Dutch Lay the field if Backing the favourite. In the Odds/On category the returns make hard work of recouping losses. Backing the Favourite, as a stand alone, represents about 27% of profit.
I use BF Bot Manager Multi Strategies, Dutchbook and Multi Favourites bots, but also have Betsender and BetBotPro to look after all the different things I've got going at any one time.
Dutch Backing slippage is a real concern and I have discussed that in another thread (Races to Dutch Back). Fortunately it kind of balances out when going SP, "swings and roundabouts" if you know what I mean.
Can't comment on In Play betting, never tried it, l retired from the Building game to avoid further stress!

I hope I have spurred you and others on to entertain new ideas, it gives me a reason to get out of bed in the morning.
Cheers RP
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