I do accept that garyf got his knickers in a twist when he realised he was putting forward facts to back his argument against an opinion, an opinion nonetheless gained through years of experience, meticulous record keeping, and an unerring sense of how the odds can be manipulated, but still an opinion. garyf offered up "you can decide who to believe", well I actually voted for garyf myself ..... lol.

..... backgammon is a great game and long hose with shorts will make a comeback !!!!!