yup maverick, i will learn one day that you can win all you like on single match betting.. but when you put the accas down (for the uninitiated an 'acca' is the same as an aussie all up bet) no matter what the price, one of your favourites will always let you down.

That or backing on horses will kill my betting bank.

ps: do any of you back on betfair? or chat on the forums there. just wondering?