Manikato,
Re Tie The Knot
Consider this - if Sunline and Shane Dye had never been conceived TTK would have a Cox Plate and Melbourne Cup on the mantlepiece along with the Underwood Stakes and the multiple Group One placings (Vic Derby,Caulfield Stakes, Caulfield Cup etc.)
Not bad for a duffer.
Re Ha Ha
What is the relevance of the 3YO filly reference? Do we blindly scrub other 3YOF's such as Surround, Emancipation, Light Fingers etc etc etc because of their age/sex or is there a better reason to discount Ha Ha.
I can't understand all the emotion on this and other sites re this stupid Northerly -v- Sunline stuff. This isn't a football match or politics or religion. They are horses who we are privileged to watch race year after year and luckily they clash occassionally. If you try hard enough you can downplay the achievements of any horse in history with a bit of rhetoric and a twist of the stats. If you can't enjoy them both without mindless denigration of one or the other then I feel sorry for you.
I often wonder what the tall poppy assassins would have done in the Tulloch -v- Todman era had the internet been around.