Not knocking what you do kenchar but it is easier said then done to pick horses for a place...whats your strike rate like and your average divi....i was just running some tests over my ratings selections my strike rate for my top 3 for a win is 66% with an avearge divi of $5.37....now with those figures i have an 18% T.O.P i can double this if i drop my top pick and go with the 2nd/3rd selections on there own for a strike rate of 43%....yet i look at my best strike rate of the 3 selections for a place it was my second selection with a strike rate of 50% for the place with average price of $1.92....now with those figures i am facing a loss....so whats better a good profit of either 18%>36% T.O.P or a loss