I remember on the old forum that Sportznut (as he was known then) put up a system that produced 23 placegetters in a row! Not sure of the exact rules, but i think it is: Using pre-post prices, take the favourite if it is from the EXTREME outside barrier e.g 16 of 16, NOT 13 of 15, Not sure of the other filters etc, but still a very good idea.