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Old 2nd January 2005, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by feather
sportz, I have never looked at a boxed 5 before. how do you work out if a trifecta or quinella is worth putting on? Yesterday i bet on 7 races, four were on the forum and three at ascot. I would of won the tri 5 times paying 163.20, 295.80, 110.70, 23.60 & 63.80. is the loss of one worth it,because i had the others? I would of had the quin in all 7 races (not betting) and only four were over the $10 cost, but because I had pr9, this would of covered the losses . for the past two months on this system, i had been looking at only 4 horses per race, and it was not worth looking into it further.


It's hard to tell whether a race is going to be value or not. I just looked up the results of your races and in all three trifectas that paid quite well, the favourite missed a place. That's when you get the bigger dividends. The two trifectas that didn't pay a lot, the favourite won. So, I guess the secret is to see if there's a short priced favourite and work out whether you think it will win or not. As for 5 horses versus 4, when you only have 4 horses in a trifecta and something goes wrong with one of them, you're relying on all 3 of your remaining runners filling the placings. In a 5 horse box, you have that extra chance. Most of the experts will actually say that it's stupid to have a box trifecta and it would be much better to use the 3/6/6 or 2/7/7 ideas. I just feel safer boxing them or using the roving banker idea. I prefer to have more than just 2 or 3 horses running for 1st. 2 guys in the tipping comp unsuccessfully went for a 2/7/7 trifecta in R6 in Sydney, and there's a good chance they would have got it with a 5 horse box or roving banker.

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Originally Posted by feather
Is there such a thing as a strike rate for two horses in a race? as i have been recording them separatly. thanks


Of course there is. It doesn't matter if you have two horses in a race. If you back 2 horses in say 10 races and your top selection wins 4 of them and your 2nd pick wins 2, then you've had the winner in 6 of the 10 races (60%) The only thing that changes is the profit. If you back them at level stakes and you get a $3.00 winner, instead of getting 200% profit on that race, you've only made 50% profit. The thing I've noticed with your tips for the comp is that you have the same amount on both and if a short priced runner wins, you don't make much profit on the race. Perhaps you could think about having more on the shorter one, say $10 compared to $5. Don't know why I should tell you what to do though. You're doing better in the tipping comp than me.
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