Neil...i have looked at all types of betting and i am afraid bookies are not up there with the top 2....when they apporate with markets of 130+% you are never going to get a fair price...we all know where the best prices are...betfair and best of the tote...which ever service you use....bookies just don't cut the mustard anymore....they have had there day and i will be sad when they are gone....but betting exchanges are here to stay...and as long as we don't just have one controling TAB for all Australia you can still get good prices from best tote divis.....partypooper thats not a bad idea...i was once told that if you have $5000 to back a horse with you put 25% on when it opens...25% when it starts to go out 25% in the middle stages and 25% at ther end....or some thing to that affect...you split your bet up so you get the best average price you can.