Neil, I seem to have opened a can of worms here. Thanks for your reply, shame the 'specials" are not available seperately. I "thought" I was very realistic in my expectations , working with ideas that have shown around 20%POT on both past and actual results, not a system as such, just ratings with filters really, but hoping long term to clear 10% (on turnover). so we agree there, also I agree that the patience factor is THE factor.
Anther thing that amazes me though is that people who are serious but still invest at NSW tab, or SP etc etc when they can have the best tote or Top Fluc merely by opening an account????