Once again proof of the crazy mixed up world of trying to find winners at the track. If someone had asked me about the basis of crash's thread I would have said stick to races up to 1600m.

Stayers in Australia on the whole are slow and lacking in class and consistency, basically because our breeeding industry caters for speed.

My comment is not whether crash is right or wrong but just how many different and varied ways people look at the same problem, where to find a winner.

Good food for thought crash, if it works for you good luck.