Just quickly tried that ladder predictor out and I've got Brisbane coming in in 5th place, but for a large part of the season, they were actually outside the 8. I came up with Port Adelaide and St Kilda up the top from Geelong, Sydney, Brisbane, West Coast, Essendon and Fremantle. I'm going to wait a bit longer though and have a more concentrated go at it after the Wizard Cup when I know a bit more about the teams.