Yes, I do bet on these races, but I'm taking it easy until I think I've got it worked out well. I've really only been doing this for a couple of months, so it's all a bit experimental. Picked up the trifecta and first 4 on the Newcastle Newmarket yesterday, one race where the ratings really went well. Did very well on Saturday at Caulfield too. I'll try to have a look at those M.Valley races you mentioned and see what I come up with.