Shaun, I seem to remember that you are mainly a place bettor like me?? if so you have definitely been missing out there. I put all my win bets on Sportingbet (maxi-divi) and all eastern states place bets on Sportsbet (i.e. best of 3 totes) though for Perth (classed as provincial, for betting purposes) I put half on @ best tote ( i.e. they give you best of Supertab and NSW Tab) and half on at unitab divies , I find over time this gives me the best average. Just managed a reasonable profit today with Nemchinova, got half @ $2.50(nsw) and half @ $2 Unitab so average $2.25c compared to $1.70 Superatab.