Kenny Victor, Your right of course when you suggest that by not looking at the form I would not a true fave from a false one. What I ambaking on is the fact that the public get it right more often than any ratings service when compared on an overall basis and not just selected races. I know that sometimes I will back a horse that isnt as good as what the public thinks it is , but I am not going to worry about losing on an individual race, I try to look at it that over the longer term. In the past I have guilty of betting haphazard amounts on horses, usually more on the losing ones and smaller amounts on the ones that get up, but know thanks to reading as many posts as I can on this and other forums I now bet in a more logical fashion so that a couple of losers isnt going to faze me. All I am saying is that if I get overs on betfair on average around the 20% mark as against the tab then in the long term i may just make a dollar. Even when i do the form I dont get it right as often as the public. I sometimes may find a good price winner, but overall I lost money. By having set goals and going about in a settled manner, I am finally starting to make consistent progress.Considering the smallish amounts I bet,the purchase of ratings , even if they did show a profit, would not be justified as it would probably take years to get to a level where it was worth my while.