dingo boy, joining betfair is as easy as joining IAS or any other bookie site. 99.9% of the time you will get better odds than any other site offers. And if you are reasonably accurate at predicting which way the market will move, you can back and lay the same horse at a guaranteed profit. No other site I know of will do that. I havent taken any money out yet but others who use them say that they dont have any probs. I dont think they will go under any time soon.