Davez has hit the nail on the head; it's all about the price. If we were very rigid about rises in distance then we'd never get a bet in any big cup (all 3200) since 99% of runners are stepping up 800 at least.What we need is proof that the trainer BELIEVES (not just hopes) his/her animal can do it when made to race extra distance.For example the trainer has put a better jockey aboard (ie how did the trainer persuade the jockey?), or the trainer has taken the horse a long way for a better paying race(ie you do your experimenting at home and your serious stuff when it's worth it). Then you,the punter, decides on a general minimum price (ie you won't accept any horse rising in distance at under 10-1 for example) and stick to it.You would've been crowing last Saturday 14/05/2005 as Tails of Triomphe took the S.A.Derby at $70 on Unitab.A class 2 winner coming 700 kilometres after a losing 2100 run at class 5 level,wins a Group 1. Well?? Hope you get a few like this. Cheers