Sweet thanks for clearing all that up XPT. The on top rater is a curious thing, I don't know why so many people stick just to it. Say you've got your top pick priced $4.0 and your 2nd pick priced $4.10, and your top pick is odds on yet your second pick is 20/1, why on earth wouldn't you back the second pick?

Seems like common sense to me.

Anyway, hey I agree with what you say about why should you use them when you have your own method - you've refined a method you're pleased with, by all means stick to it. I am excited about ********************'s product because of what it represents: an easily available, inexpensive ratings method. For all those people who can't and don't have the time to calculate their own ratings, here is an answer, a site with accurate ratings across all of Australia and New Zealand. Makes winning a lot more possible for people, and that's something I am for.

I have spoken to some of the blokes at ******************** about this, and apparently their next step is including Hong Kong ratings, then America, then the UK. Their overall goal is a worldwide set of ratings, all on the same points scale, rating all the races in the world. Pretty ambitious, but it'd sure make spring carnivals easier. And, when all's said and done, TABCORP are going to be betting on American, English, Asian racing sooner rather than later. I know this for sure, so having a site that rates all of the world's races on the same scale, accurately, from your maiden at Tocumnwal (is that even spelled right?) to the Kentucky Derby, I reckon that'd be ************ fantastic.