hey mav,allways liked the don but you put me right into yes mode.,,could not beleive the price and the more he blew the the more i threw(is that a word ) ..im going fishing now(i live 400ks north of perth on the coast so catching tea is a peice of ********) hey i also enjoy your brisse talk it my favorite place to punt for me it allways seems to have the best value..cheers gaz.