hey floydboy,,,i think you will find its the moneypot ****************s that dont want share with anyone...i have 3 net accounts and the only bet i'll have with and tab is a quaddie...there is only 1 way to hurt that kind of thought process and thats make them stand up at the next share holders meeting and explain why there shares are going down in value,becouse when the ******** hits it most of the time sticks.....cheers gaz...