BJ, i do my own prices, when i rate teams and i have them shorter than the bookies, thats value to me and i'll back them if i think can win, but if i have a team at say $1.40 and good things [other team at $2.85], and the books have them at $1.30 and $3.00 i wouldnt back the other team just because their overs.Last night i had the knights specials and rated at $1.60 and i gt $2.40 !, also backed them 13+ @ $7.00