Hi Jim,

Haven't you noticed everyone here is a 'winner'? Ever read a post here saying "I'm a looser"? Course you haven't.
I've punted on and off for 35yrs. and no punter say's it [I'm a mug-punter idiot].Banging their head away on the wall saying"this doesn't hurt and I keep doing it because there is hope I won't get a headache".
Yeah, there is a bit of that going on here, but many punters, like with their drinking, have punting well under control
and enjoy what they are doing. It's budgeted into our lifestyle along with everything else. And yes, winning is possible but not all the time and probably never long term for most of us anyway.