By whinger I mean there was a case earlier this year when Freedman was saying that there were a couple of smaller trainer in melbourne who were getting away with using drugs or something along those lines I have a bad memory. it wasn't just Freedman, Hawkes was making the accusations along with someone else. It obviously upset a few guys Peter Moody, Tony Noonan & Mick Price were the main ones who kicked back, as a result I think Noonan had a horse or 2 that may have returned a high TCO2 level but not much happened out of it. I get the feeling that the bigger trainers in Melbourne might have just been getting a bit upset over how competitive it is down there.

Richard Freedman is out there and always has an opinion but alot of the times I agree with what he is saying he just isn't all that diplomatic the way he goes about saying it.

Hope this helps out a bit.