Thanks Mav, I'm in a hurry to get out of here, I have 2 of 3 in the late win 3 at DelMar and it's the final race of the meet! (1=$24-10=$7- I can't remember the 2 (or 3 I hope) #'s in the 10th. It's hard to write it all down when you bet on the phone acct. Route me in! and let's get em tonight. Ipswich speeeeed(I dunno, it was last week. I'll back Byrne all day. THanks for all the info Mav.