Desi I also have to respect your loyalty to the Bucs as they really stunk it up for a long time. I can only think of one team who was ever that bad and I've always been loyal to them. I loved John Brodie and Gene Washington and OJ Simpson for that matter ( hey, he might have been the best running back ever so ya can't deny him that, just throw him in jail). That's when the league was great!!!! Steve Spurrier used to QB the Niners after Brodie and now I can't stand him. TB lost the man, John Gruden. He was the reason for their success. THe only coach in the league with guts enough to tell some cry baby superstar (Keyshawn Johnson) to pound sand, we don't need you. Gruden really called his bluff. Keyshawn yeah or neah Des?