i just made this 1 up 20 mins ago a lot of winners and placers come from the top 6 in weight.ie.nos 1 through 6,just look at last start if its down in weight and less than 3 lengths from the winner its a go ,i dont know if anyone could test this in a data base but it picked up a few good divies to day[img]images/icons/icon6.gif[/img]