Yep do have Xcellent form - that rating was a 114 the other day, suggesting he has a 119 coming. Certainly a good rating but I do think there's plenty of 119 horses in the mix with less weight than him. I know he's only got 53 or 54 or whatever it is but Vouvray will peak at 118 (has 51.5), Dizelle will peak at 119 (has 51.5), Confectioner has a peak between 119 and 122 (hard to gage given he's now a Hayes horse, may therefore be a 122, would've been a 119 if still McEvoy) and he has 52.5. Xcellent is an excellent horse (boom boom!) but people are going overboard calling him a champion etc already. Starcraft came out of the same race last year and didn't win the Cox plate. I know Starcraft won overseas etc but point is it's easy to beat moderate horses well. 119 is an excellent rating (boom boom again!) and will win Group 1's though, but whether it wins the elite group 1's is another matter. I think not myself with the weight he has.

Super Kid, super horse!! He rated 120 behind Barely A Moment, first up in Australia, that says something on it's own, and pretty much proves the HK ratings right.

Agree with your prognosis of Wild Iris and Vouvray. Wild Iris certainly has the ability too, however she only rated 112 winning her Oaks which means the has a 117 coming. She has hit around 112 a couple of times since too, what weight does she have in the Cups? She wouldn't want to have more than Vouvray because on ********************'s ratings Vouvray looks a point superior.