Reading what you guys are saying is very interesting and christ knows you must have plenty of time on your hands which has been my biggest problem in doing up some type of ratings system or anything, I simply don't have the time to do it. I am a big fan of Trifectas, Trebles, Quinellas and All Ups in my exotic betting, However I will only have the treble if there looks to be tough races (maybe 2 legs where there are 15 horse fields or something to that degree) or even better when there looks to be a horse which is very short in a decent sized field that looks vulnerable. It doesn't always work out well and god knows I have seen the photo go the wrong way plenty of times and even the odd protest leaving me gutted and scratching my head.

Trifectas I usually will not consider even doing in a field of less than 12 just don't feel there is enough value there for the outlay in anything smaller the Turnbull and the Epsom look great trifecta races this weekend. Quinellas are usually something I will resort to if I have a race where I like a couple of horse at nice odds and will couple it with what I feel is the best of the shorter priced horses for what can be a nice divi when things aren't going quite right. All ups are something I don't do very often and it is usually only about a $10 bet if I do it had one a couple of years ago taken on the 1st leg on protest when Choisir was relegated on the last day of the flemington carnival I can't remember what the other 3 horses were that I had for the win 2 of them were Spinning Hill and Delago Brom I think my memory isn't the greatest though I just remember the payout would have been about $10,000 because the last 2 legs were the 2 that were big odds hence not effecting the odds as much aswell as being a big day.


As far as backing horses I usually go straight out I don't have a big bank only bet on the weekends mainly because I work everyday and saturday is the day where I can just sit back and enjoy the races. I have thought about place betting and god knows I have seen plenty of horses I have liked run a good place paying in excess of $5 for a place only to have backed them straight out.

I will ask one question guys out of exotics style betting which do you find more successful Trebles or Trifectas? my father has said to me on more than one occasion he prefers trebles because it is a hell of alot easier to pick a winner than it is to pick the placegetters in races so many times something you wouldn't even look at gets a place.