BJ Quote: "Yet at the start of this thread your whole point was that you punt purely for fun and don't expect to win".

Yes, I do only bet for pleasure [now]. Doesn't mean I always did and I have never said in all my forum posts anywhere that I didn't expect to win, dummy. Not that I would ever be stupid enough to claim I do [or don't] here. I leave those bragging rights for others to make.

As for the rest of your post, I refer you to my one of my previous post's points: ...."This forum is stuffed with idiots playing the man because that's their mental capacity playground". A point you adequately have volunteered to prove very well. Thank you.