"It's not just about picking winners, the most obvious horse will most probably be the least value. There is value in every race, you just have to look for it. The most favoured in the tipsters poll, the most popular jockey, the best stable, the highest strike rate, the best form, the highest class, the shortest price, will all lead you to a high strike rate, but a loss - UNLESS you find within all of that something that the public is generally not aware of - AN EDGE."

certainly agree there Chrome, after my 25 yearsof punting having tried every method available I've yet to find one particular method that standouts from the rest, so now I concentrate most of my time on getting the best prices on offer.

For example, just backing number 1 on the tote will lose you about 12 cents in the dollar. Getting the best of the three totes would reduce that to about 7 or 8 cents as a guess. So if you can gain an extra 10 per cent from an exchange then youre about breaking even, and thats just using one criteria only. Not suggesting that its that easy but I am saying for me its now more about getting the best price rather than spending oodles of time with form.

AS a matter of interest chrome, the topweight and ranked 1 api in handicaps only?

The form is more or less done for us anyway with the prices on offer. True,some will be over priced or underpriced but the time it takes to work that out I think can be better spent investing more wisely. And toget value my weight ratings would need to be fairly accurate,and there are some factors you just cant build in.