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Originally Posted by crash
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I think even though you have the moral high ground here [which I and probably management too, sympathize with], you are being very naive. The vested interests here, naturally do not support Betfair because it's commercial connections and advertisers have a lot to lose with it's introduction. I think you are trying to put management between a rock and a hard place and you should realize that is a silly exercise that can only lead to one predictable result [odds-on], failure.
All the best, Crash
PS. I will not be in the the least surprised [nor particularly offended], to find this whole thread removed at some time today:-)
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Gday Crash..
I did not even look at the issue from where you are coming from, and probably more fool me... I have read and read topics on this forum, and Neil in particular has always been for finding best odds etc... and looking after the punter.. His post on this thread says to me that he agrees with what I have written.. again that is my interpretation
Having said that.. this topic of Vengo was red hot on the 13 th November, stoked by the officialdom of Racing Victoria, where they cast aspersions on what happened in the race.. and on the people who laid the horse.. I am entitled to take umberance at what they alluded to becaue I layed the horse, and what I did had nothing to do with racing's integrity.. but they painted all layers on betfair with the one brush..
Other forums, and you know about those, were rather scathing one way or the other, of both betfair and Racing Vic, and I think the trainer may have come in for a spray for buying in to the betfair argument. This forum really needs to offer more robust argument on issues that matter, without editing..
Otherwise it does not achieve it's real purpose, which is to provide an avenue for punters, owners and other in the industry, to express their views etc. It is also here to make people aware of the the very good products Neil and his company provide..
All should already be aware, that I am a betfair fan... I like the idea of a 5% takeout, it is easier to beat than a 20% take out... But my post was not a pro betair post... rather it was a post pointing out how the people running racing Vic appear to have jumped the gun and implied things that obviously were unresearched, becaue they are blinkered by their hatred of competition, competition that will destroy, what should be an illegal monopoly inder Australian Competition Rules... Based on the result of the Cl6 at Ballarat yesterday I am claiming a victory for fairness in an argument.... Vengo appears to be overrated at this stage. It had won a class 3 at Geelong as its best win and surprise surprise cannot make the class jump to R1MW Saturday Company.. Talking of Blind Freddy, can't the stipes see that horse was racing well out of it's class, it was also out of it's class yesterday.. I wonder if they will call the connections in to explain why this horse has been beaten twice, in it's last 2 starts as favourite? Or will they blame betfair for laying the horse again ( I did ) ..
My post is about fairness in arguments, and not allowing the establishment to tell porkies to suit their own ends... It is happening all too often today, the natinal government excels at it, and when people pull them up you are branded unaustralian..
Call me an altrusit, an egalitarian or just plain naive, but I wont resort to lies to win an argument, as others appear more than willing to do
If this thread is pulled down so be it.... I cant control that, but if it is, it is a victory for people who don't like the small bloke having his say, ... and THAT I am afraid is UnAustralian