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Originally Posted by Zoe
Interestingly, I was looking at another thread of yours: 'Chrome tipped arrows'.
One of your rules that Crash didn't criticize, mentioned 'must not rely on occasional long shots'. I notice your 'Chrome tipped Arrows' does exactly that. Decide a few rules and chance is doing the rest. Nothing scientific there. If it's making a profit at the moment, it's chance at work not probability.
Beyond explaining some probability in my post with some simple maths., yes I indeed summarized my final point with a bit of reason. 40% facts collected into a database and 60% 'events', collected over thousands of races is going to provide long term, predictable future profitable outcome? You really have to be joking right? Are you involved in selling systems or something?.
'Generalized' is your claim about my final point in my post. OK if you like, I'm not trying to prove anything here. If I was I would have decided not to summarize, but used another language completely, advanced maths. which was not needed for the simple explanation about probability.This is a punting forum, not a science forum right?
If you would like to change the language of your disagreement with my point of view here Chrome Prince, I'm willing to oblige if you also can speak the language. Crash would not be able to, but with a Bachelor of Science degree, I certainly would have no trouble.
I tried to keep my post's point simple. Do I get banned now too:-)?
No offense meant Chrome Prince and all the best,
Zoe.
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Hi Zoe,
Firstly, I had nothing to do with crash being banned.
Yes, I thought he was harsh, but I'm more thick skinned than to run crying to anyone.
I have never complained to management about anyone on this forum.
Often times I've had some good hearted banter with crash, so I'm not offended, but he had one winning day "handicapping" and proceeded to tell everyone on more than one thread, that his way was the "only" way.
Firstly, he had a great day and his handicapping paid off, but posting 2 selections does not make his way the only way.
Chrome Tipped Arrows does rely on longshots, you are correct.
I never implied that it was a winning mechanical system, nor that it would hold up even next month anywhere on that thread.
I am making more money on the Best Bets than on the longshots, and the Best Bets are showing a small loss. I have bet the Best Bets in a very different manner (no staking plan) to achieve much greater success.
Having said that, it is only one of my strategies, and I don't think that other methods won't work or work even better.
Both yourself and crash seem to be very much of the same opinion, that you cannot entertain anything other than your own methods.
Seeing as you brought up "joking" and am I involved in selling systems, well no I am not. I sell a database which contains four FREE systems based on my ability to create VIABLE systems.
I can also tell you that anyone who has bought my database can verify in real time, that every one of the four FREE systems is still profitable to this minute.
No handicapping required.
I started with these mechanical systems 2 years ago, and they have stood the test of time, even though I only have 40% events in them.
What does this mean anyway, what has been left out?
Is personal judgement 60% of the criteria for handicapping methods???
How can handicapping account for a poor ride today, bad luck today, the horse off colour today, the trainer not serious about winning this one today etc etc etc.
Your generalization was just that, and having a science degree does not make you right. Your statement was skewed with no supporting facts, just personal opinion.
How do you know for a fact that very few punters understand systems?
How do you know that mechanical systems do not select odds in their favour?
This is a very bold statement, because I can prove that one of the reasons all my systems work, is because the systems select more winners where the odds are in my favour than against!
We are not discussing science, advanced maths or anything else, but pure logic.
It is just a disagrement, there is no malice or personal agenda against you or crash. I just find it frustrating, when someone is closed to anything other than what they do.
And no, as far as I'm concerned you don't get banned, I had absolutely nothing to do with crash having a holiday.
Tell him I say hi, and wish him a Merry Christmas from me.