Hi Jose
I purchased Dark Horse and Utlimate Dark Horse in the dim past....Followed for long time but without success. Blew the dust off about two years ago for a short period without success.
I think with most systems if you are lucky enough you may start betting at the start of a winning sequence however it is the long term where most fail.
Anyway if you say they are winners I will just have to try again maybe.
There may be a light at the end of the tunnel after all but take a torch with you just in case.

Good Luck Midas

The Ocho,

I have both here.

Drop me a line at my "monikor" @hotmail and I will email them to you.

Cheers
darky

Thorns, yes I've always said that in another way, i.e. most systems work SOME of the time.

I have a mate that plays the Martingdale (spelling?) at the casino, he waits for a losing run of 6 (black or red) then steps in. I've given up trying to explain that the 7th spin is still 50/50 but he wont have it, he does seem to win all the time, but he will get cleaned out one of these days. (won't he?)

Not to mention Hay Chee infallible Poker Machine System.

I,ve seen many players using this one.

Done thanks Darkydog2002

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