I thought we should start discussing the big races well beforehand so as to allow for sufficient debate.

Just had a look at the metrop, and i don;t see how stormhill isnt the better bet over railings. Stormhill beat railing 2 (maybe 3) starts ago and yet railings is 4 points shorter. Sure since then railings has shown great form and should hold the edge over stormhill, but by that much?

Perlin is currently at 17's, that looks ok.

As for the epson, 8 bucks for collate, thats huge. I didnt see celebritys sun on saturday but i heard he got all the favours and shania was boxed in only to go down narrowly. The only querry over paratroopers is can he just keep on winning. And the one i am going to spec at 15's is outback prince. He has already proven himself by winning a group one, he will be cherry ripe for the epsom.

Should be speed in the race with collate, lotteria, paratroopers etc going forward. Johans toy (big run last time), Danni and ikes come into it. Gonna be a great race.

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Matt

Railings will win the metrop easy......

As for the Epsom (which a horse i owned won) i think Lotteria or Shania Dane will pull through, but not sure - just some early thoughts

Perlin and Vouvray certainly look the value to me. Railings is a good horse but didn't beat much at the weekend, will probably be overhyped in betting terms to an unbackable price.

As for the Epsom, what a field. This one's gonna be a beauty. I am lost at this stage, Paratroopers is really impressive, Shania Dane really unlucky on the weekend, Lotteria, Collate, Outback Prince, Johans Toy, El Segundo. The mind boggles!

Dane Hero and Stratum $61 & $51 respectively - who woulda thought you'd see those two at those odd's.

I'm flipped if i can seperate them at this stage.

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My thinking exactly re: railings mad. Top, top chance but unders. As with vouvray, tink the cups are her main target, not sure if she will be fully wound up.

dance hero should be 200's. couldn't run 1600m down a mine shaft. I like Paratroopers if he starts. He's a really nice horse i think.Johan's toy, danni martine, studebaker, outback prince are included in my of chances. might risk the favourites Lotteria and Mr celebrity.

Oh, don;t think dance hero can run out a strong mile in a pressure race against this opposition. Stratum is being aimed at the caulfield guineas (isnt he?), callow goes onto stratum and i think that could be a turning point for this horse. Stratum needs to be stoked up and callow is a better choice than boss for this type of ride.

Hughey Bowman on racing retro last night gave outback prince the thumbs up. Said fitness gave out over last 50, be much better for the run though. At good odds will be a decent e/w chance.

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I think i might have an eachway on it myself tommorow mad. It had obviously been set for the race and will be peaking for it.

Yep, i'll happily take on Mr Celebrity with ya umrum. Shania Dane nearly got him after being blocked for a decent run a coupla times on the weekend. Lotteria, not sure. Always there or there abouts and at home always a risk.

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