I don't have a whinge very often, about bad jockey rides and bad luck and that but i am going to have a whinge now. This rule about horses not getting a fair chance being in place to "protect punters" is a farce. It protected the punters that backed Mr. celebrity and thats all. But it doesn't protect the punters who actually found the winner. I didn't rate Mr Celbrity as even a place chance, and i backed Men at Work and On a Jeune. Now i was wrong on my assessment of Mr celeb, as had he not missed the start he would have probably(you never know) placed or even won. But you can only speculate. I did find the actual winner in on a jeune, who had probably a harder run the mr celebrity did anyway, wide the trip at the back of the field. I am greatful that i had a win on the race and 12 dollars is still a nice divi, i didn;t bet all that much so it wasn;t the end of the world. But if i was betting larger ammounts i would be pretty ****ed off; a five dollar difference in price is huge.

Why should all the other punters in the race take the fall, for one horses bad barrier behaviour?

Furthermore, i can see a lot more losers out of the whole situation than winners. Bookies lose out. Punters apart from those on mr celeb lose out. the owners lose out.

All that said, what happens now for Mr celeb and the cup?

cheers and thanks for listening to my uncharacteristic whinge.

Gday ten

Congrats on finding the winner...

U are entitled to have a whinge... we all are.. I would have been screaming had they declared Mr C a runner. It saved me a substantial amount of cash.. As I had Mr C just about unbeatable in that race...what I will say, is, I believe that under the rules that operate in Victoria, had Mr C run a hole there is no option to declare it a non runner, the placings stand.. That was changed I believe after a race earlier in the year, I am open to correction on that tho.

Had I not had money on Mr C I would still have supported the decision, the horse was not afforded a fair start.. it was that simple.. and IMHO was the best of good things beaten.. Now we could go down the road of once the last gates close the race starts, but how fair would that be? We would still have pple going **********

As for where to now... I believe Mr C is heading for the Saab. dont know how that effects his chances of getting a MC start tho...

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If he wins the Saab, he gets exempted into the Melbourne Cup, he is doesn't he probably misses out altogether as he is well down the list as he about 60th in the order.

Me and a couple of mates had the tri slashed from over $800 to just under $400.
Considering we still had the $12 winner $3 placegetter was very rough.

My blood is still boiling from yesterday!!!

Mr Celebrity and Leica Falcon in one of the biggest match races ever to get into the melbourne Cup.

Both HAVE to win the Saab to qualify.

Gday Rudolph...

I can understand what u are saying there... But the pool would have been slashed with the fav being taken out and no time for punters who had Mr C to reinvest.. again I many be wrong.. but it seems that is what would have happened

Anyone know the answer to this

say you boxxed 4 runners (24 bucks) in a tri.. say you had the 3 that won and ran the holes and Mr C.. do you lose your bet ( ie have the monies returned) or do you win the tri and have an extra 18$ returned?

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I too was spurned !

It's all just wrong....... If the freakin door hadn't opened, then fair enough = NON RUNNER !

But just beacuse it's a lazy sh*t and decided to rest on the barrier (which IMHO the jokey should be held entirely responsible for!)..... bad luck!

Just like the Harness......... if the leave the start (1,10,35 lengths behind the last in the field) it's in and a RUNNER ............the gear breaks / saddle slips / runs thru the barrier...... bad luck !

Just like in the dogs....... if they bite each other...... bad luck!

If they step out - they are a runner !

Showing my ignorance I know........ but you get out of the barrier - you started !

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You win your bet and get the $18 refund.

Pretty sure you'll find that first AND second from the SAAB get in, and if they run 1-2, they'll both be in.

Did you have Mr Celebrity in your trifectas? If not, you shouldn't be upset, because if he had got a fair start, you would have got $0.