Now this has to be seen to be believed.

I am not going to mention who - but I think we all know who it probably is...

Someone has pinched my stable system and is selling it on their website. While the idea is not original, the rules, number of horses and selection method is...and has been copied in it's entirety.

This sort of plagerism is shameful...I don't mind sharing ideas with people, but to pinch it, claim it as your own, tell me publicly that it "will never work"..and then charge for it...

GOOD GRIEF!!!

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Ok, now this is terrible. I really do enjoy sharing ideas and working together on this (and any other) hobby. I can't imagine that this is what the forum was intended for.

Hopefully this sort of behaviour will not discourage the rest of us who are having fun. Especially insightful contributors like EI.

But I sincerely hope this example helps to curtail this sort of abuse. From a community standpoint it is a breach of trust and threatens a social establishment; and an entertaining one at that. From a legal standpoint it is an infringement of copyright as copyright is implied by the creator of the information unless it is proven to be copied or quoted from an earlier source.

So, EI, I hope that you, in conjunction with Smartgambler/ProPunter, have arranged a mutually satisfactory arrangement with the website owner -- or at least a lawyer!

Thankyou TheDuck,

I think it is really just a matter of someone trying to profit from someone else's ideas.

I must stress, the idea is not original (mine), but the rules of the system and selection criteria were almost word for word the same as mine. Also in checking the daily selections, they were also 90% the same as mine.

Anyhow, that won't stop me contributing here.

I feel flattered!

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I guess it was only a matter of time for something like this to happen , I`m surprised it has`nt happened sooner.

I guess that`s the risk of trying to Socialisticly share Interlectual Property in in a Democratic society, where we have the Democratic right to sue the butt off people using very expensive solicitors at 30 paces.

The more money you have ,the more Democracy you can afford.

Keep up the great input E.I. into this site
Its what helps make this site one of the most popular punting sites around.

Plus, its probably the most user friendly out of all of them.

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EI
I missed your posting that had the system above. Could you please let me know when you posted it and I will check the archives.
I would like to see it if possible.
Thanks

Hi Croft,

Here is the link.

http://www.propun.com.au/forums/vie...ic=1110&forum=2

By the way the system is showing level stakes profit on turnover of 185%. And it's not even half-way through the process.

I will be posting a full workout of results when it's finished.

[ This Message was edited by: Equine Investor on 2002-07-23 20:43 ]

If you take out the flukey 100/1 winner from Grafton, the method is showing a big loss.
Prior to the Grafton race you tipped 2 other horses instead. Harry Hindsight?

Rubin, obviously you didn't read my original post where Citichy was CLEARLY in the stable posted on 20th June as a Saturday selection.

And even without that 75/1 winner it is still showing a level stakes profit.

I'm sure neither the jockey, nor the trainer consider Citichy's win a fluke.

After all as a previous Listed Race and Group 3 Race winner it was merely over the odds, but came as no surprise to me.

Of the 80 horses selected 19 are winners so far, some multiple winners, after an average of less than 2 runs each.

Some of the winners include:
Bush Triumph $7.00
Citichy $78.20
Flying Ed $7.40
Forceful $6.30
Kenconcarne $9.10
Mr. Attorney $11.50
Pagano $6.30
Sheer Devotion $8.60
Sportsbrat $13.00

To name only a few.

[ This Message was edited by: Equine Investor on 2002-07-23 23:54 ]

Don't you have 300 horses in your stable?
If someone picked 300 horses at random, their would be a few good priced winners.

It seems convient how you claim a winner after a race, yet before the race you tipped 2 other others?

Rubin, see my post under tip today..Macedon Lady $10+ winner.
I am not going to debate this further, just let the results speak for themselves.

You wrongly stated that without Citichy's win the system showed a loss.

It shows a healthy level stakes profit.

As far as the 300 horses...no!

I am only following the 80 mentioned in a previous thread because I was attacked constantly by impatient punters who couldn't see that a shortterm win is usually a longterm loss, and a shortterm loss is usually a longterm win.

Again it's happeneing here. I gave two selections that I thought were chances in the Grafton Cup. They were NOT my entire stable selections, as I had stopped posting them here because of the attitude of a few.

Citichy was clearly in the stable.

Enough of the hypotheticals - the system is showing a profit no matter how many horses in it, and that's the bottomline. Something you claimed was impossible last month!

[ This Message was edited by: Equine Investor on 2002-07-24 15:37 ]