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Old 28th December 2007, 10:38 PM
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Hi Guys, (and ladies)

Haven't been on this site for a while, but hey you're no forgotten....

Anyway, here's my gripe...

I am disgusted at the standard of city races put on for meetings in Sydney, since the E.I. problem finished.

I just spent many hours assessing the races for Saturday and a deep feeling od despair came over me.. several races are poor quality even for a country meet.

finding betting opportunities among the races presented is really a serious task of chance... There's no reliable form to go on, and the runners are such poor quality you really cant rely on it.

When are we going to see a return to some decent races, not quality races, just regular class 6 or better races, where some form can be relied upon, like it used to be..

If the race clubs put on a higher standard of race, they'll attract a higher standard of racehorse...

Right now they are catering for the lowest common denominator which puts the better horses on the outer..

C'mon AJC & STC get with it
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Old 29th December 2007, 05:24 AM
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The standards are poor in every state at the moment, not just Sydney.
A good reason to become a $2 punter maybe, as it will be a great day for the bookies I reckon.
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Old 29th December 2007, 06:33 AM
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G'day Oz

Sydneys not like the olden days huh. I think the BOBS system is slowly hurting NSW + Sydney and in the not so distant future the Magic Millions sales will have many many more smaller sales associated with it with Inglis's Newmarket ring slowly falling apart with only the Easter Sales left. << They already contribute to around 70% of their revenue.

Why?

As a breeder why would i want to sell or race my horse in NSW when its the only bonus system that doesnt reward the breeder. In VIC & Qld i can take a mare to one of their stallions, sell my horse and even though i'm no longer associated with it thereafter i can receive prizemmoney as the breeder. Firstly i will target one of their stallions, secondly target their sales hoping the owner actually lives and wants to race there. Thirdly if say i have a QRIS nom'd horse a large percentage of the time the owners will want to race in QLD for themselves to get the bonus. Hence the choice in some cases of where a horse will run begins at the breeder. The BOBS scheme is very very ordinary in regards to its purpose.
If theres no carnival or big races in Sydney then horses will stay in their own states and race for bonuses. It wont change unless BOBS change and in my opinion will only get worse.
The Vic system even allows the breeder to go to NSW in year 1. Then if going to a VIC stallion in year 2 will let you nom them both of them for the VIC system allowing the breeder to have the chance for x2 lots of bonus.

BOBS stands for BREEDERS OWNERS BONUS SCHEME

They just forgot about the 1st bit.....the BREEDER. Absolutley nothing in it at all as an incentive to take your mares to NSW stallions, sell in NSW or race in NSW.

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Old 29th December 2007, 07:02 AM
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Well, thanks for that insight Kingy. It appears that the E.I. crisis is not totally to blame, but has exposed the underbelly of the problem.

I notice that Befair betting totals are down significantly and so the TAB pools must also be down. If the NSW goverment is losing its cash cow youd think theyd wake up...

It does appear to me that the NSW goverment is happy to allow the racing industry in the city to starve to death..

Glad Im a Queendlander
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Old 29th December 2007, 07:05 AM
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The standards are poor in every state at the moment, not just Sydney.
A good reason to become a $2 punter maybe, as it will be a great day for the bookies I reckon.

A sit and watch day, I agree... But that sad thing is that these are the runners getting ready for the next weeks...It goes on and on..
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Old 29th December 2007, 11:32 AM
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ive been doing pretty decent betting horses first and second races off the lay off from june/july and september.

especially maidens that ran huge on debuts but were sidelined since june/july.
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Old 29th December 2007, 11:56 AM
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1st at sydney

#2- 2nd start since may
#4- 1st start since may
#5- 2nd start since july

#2 and #5 needing this race.

#4 c. connor horses have been running decent the last two weeks.
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Old 29th December 2007, 01:19 PM
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rosehill 3rd- #5 white cap

another street cry runner down under.

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Old 29th December 2007, 07:24 PM
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ive been doing pretty decent betting horses first and second races off the lay off from june/july and september.

especially maidens that ran huge on debuts but were sidelined since june/july.

Well done Parrformoz... Here I am looking for the perfest world and there you are happily taking advantage of an oportunity... Thinking outside the square..

Well done..
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Old 29th December 2007, 07:50 PM
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Well done Parrformoz... Here I am looking for the perfest world and there you are happily taking advantage of an oportunity... Thinking outside the square..

Well done..
thanks ozpunter.

worked out real well today.

rosehill race 1- #2 why're you waiting- 2nd.....2nd run off layoff- may

rosehill race 2- #4 guillotine- 1st.........2nd run off layoff- april

rosehill race 4- #3 canary island- 1st.....2nd run off layoff- august
.....................#6 subtle glane- 2nd......2nd run off layoff- august
.....................#7 mr blue sky- 3rd .......2nd run off layoff- may

rosehill race 5- #5 treat- 1st.....................1st run off layoff- august
......................#9 regal melody- 2nd- .....1st run layoff - march

rosehill 7th- #8 party crasher- 1st.......... 2nd run off layoff- june

rosehill 8th- #1 matilda princess- 3rd- ....2nd run off layoff- may
.................#2 angel girl- 1st- .............2nd run off layoff- august
.................#8 tresor- 2nd- .................1st run off layoff- september

was fortunate for it to go good in the last at moone valley

#4 let loushe- 1st- .........2nd run off layoff- may
#12 high intensity- 3rd-.....1st run off layoff- feb

not to many fresh horses running on the card today at moonee valley.

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