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Dermot Weld has walked the track and both his horses will run
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Great news I have had a bet on him already but it wasn't until the final field was announced so if he was scratched I would have gotten my cash back but it would have been a crying shame for this horse not to be in the cup.


IMO he is the now the horse to beat because obviously they are of the opinion that this horse has a chance on the track the way it is and with more taing forcasted Irish eyes could be smiling today.

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I saw Vinnie's last race in Ireland.He has never gone better,he won the race as he liked!The going was on the easy side of good that day.I'd want similar ground today.

The Flemington track is not flint hard today like it was for Vinnie last time. Dermot says the horse is tentative on hard tracks, and has confirmed the horse will run after walking the track early this morning.

At 10am the skies are clear and sunny, but the forecast is for afternoon showers (can't see it at this stage, but it is Melbourne).

The important thing is that even if there is no further rain and the track dries out a litte, the sting is out of it.

Go Vinnie Go!

Well as it turned out his was the horse to beat the difference is he covered about 4000m while Makybe covered the minimum of 3200m just a huge run but it doesn't do me any good when they run 2nd. I wish they would cease to use the damn useless european jockeys say whatever you like these guys are friggin hopeless.


Congrats to Makybe though I had a big win on her last year and I must admit that if I didn't want to grab hold of one P.Smullen and drag him across red hot coals it probably would have been more enjoyable to have seen her do it.

Swap the runs, swap the result. Just a massive run by a magnificant animal. Paddy Smullen doesn't think the run would've changed the result, of course it would've you cant say covering that much extra ground and still going down by about 1.5l wouldn't change anything. Great win by the mare but she had all the favours.

Makybe Diva went through the worst going and was eased down on the last 50m, I don't think Vinnie Roe would of won had he been ridden closer to the rail. And if he did, who's to say that he could've handled being surrounded by other horses as European horses aren't used to racing that way.

He had his chance.

Stop talking from your pockets.

Like I said Notherly Congrats to Makybe Diva she deserved it but how the hell can you say that being closer to the rail wouldn't have helped him that is ridiculos.


The 2 best horses in the race fought it out and it was a great race atleast by those 2 anyway the rest left a bit to be desired.

"Makybe Diva went through the worst going and was eased down on the last 50m".

Dont think this statement has much validity as the rail looked just as good as where Vinnie was, Fonome got beaten a lip by two v g horses with a rails run the next race.

"I don't think Vinnie Roe would of won had he been ridden closer to the rail. And if he did, who's to say that he could've handled being surrounded by other horses as European horses aren't used to racing that way".

Dont know how you think they race in Europe, do they all get their own lane?. Horseracing entails being surrounded by other horses of course he would've handled it.

"He had his chance.

Stop talking from your pockets".

I make no bones about talkiing from my pockets i think this whole forum is based around people talking from their pockets, ( How much did you have on Makybe anyway Northerly).

The fact is he covered much, much more ground then the winner but wasn't beaten all that far. I'm sure if Makybe was given the same run Bossy would cop just as much if not more criticism.

[ This Message was edited by: Mr ed on 2004-11-04 19:32 ]

What a load of crap...he lost end of story...he might have covered more ground but that was the jocks fault...if it hadn't of rained he may not have even been that close and there may have been another winner...it was a good result all round except for the bookies...and we don't mind hurting them once and awhile