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Old 5th May 2005, 07:17 AM
dingoboy dingoboy is offline
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Hi all,
Not probabally in the right spot to post this but, it did involve my staking system so have a look.

The other day i went to the TAB to put on a bet, it was pretty big for the old dingo so the account wasnt up to it so to the tab to place it, four runners, equal ammount on each, it was a pretty big bet !

Now, i stood there and watched it, (first time in about ten years that i have stood in a tab with the other loosers), my selection came in and paid 8.8 on nsw, great, progression was over, tidy profit, walk out with the blank look on the face so no one notices the bulge in ones back pocket, but NAHH!!!!.

Dingo walks out and decides that he will go home, pick up the two or three little tickets scatered around the house and pop down latter to collect them all.

Comes back next day and "scanned them", nill pay.
Ol mate behind the counter says "sorry mate, nill pay"

I comes back, checked on the net, sure enough the thing had payed, correct weight, no protests, nothing. Whats going on i thinks.

Goes to TAB, asks ol mate again, this time he manually puts the ticket in, "OOOOHHHH he says as the bells ring loudly from the tab, how would you like it, in hundreds or fifties"

Sorry for the long winded story but has anyone else seen or heard of this, i wonder how much is not claimed each year ?

MY POINT IS HOW MANY PUB OR TAB PUNTERS WHO MAY HAVE HAD A COUPLE WOULD HAVE JUST CRUSHED THE OLD TICKET UP AND DISCARDED IT TO THE TRASH BIN IN THE CORNER, PROBABALLY MISSED THE BIN AND BOUNCED INTO THE SMOKE TRAY AND WENT UP IN FLAMES.

Cheers
Dingo-now correctly paid-boy
Heres to keeping your tickets and knowing whats going on !
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Old 5th May 2005, 01:26 PM
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Yes have had some experiences like that in the past...no all bets are placed online where i can see the transaction and get a printout if needed
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Old 5th May 2005, 07:19 PM
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I dont use the TAB shops anymore but we had the same thing with lotto happen a month or two ago same story ...scanned ticket ...no result .....and there were 2 collects on the one ticket (a five week entry) we'd already checked them on the net and knew how much we had comin so we made them scan again it took a few times before it registered .......So trust no one especially machines that read tickets where your moneys concerned
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Old 5th May 2005, 09:14 PM
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Default Scanned TAB Ticket's

When on hols on the Gold Coast last year placed 3 $200 win bets on my system selections in the morning at the Broadbeach TAB. Spent the rest of the day at Seaworld, or some other 'world' up there. At 8.01 pm went into the Pub Tab at Broadbeach but didn't have my reading glasses with me to check the results. Asked the lady at the counter if she could scan the tickets to see if any were winners.

She took the tickets, scanned them and politely told me "sorry, no collects" as she placed the dud tickets in a waste bin behind the counter.

I thought little of it, as most of us punters have our losing days, and re-joined our friends at the restaurant. One of my friends had follwed my selections and placed $20 on each. He asked me how they'd fared and a little embarrased (as you would be) I said, sorry all duds!

The story would have ended there, but this friend is a bit of a night owl, and on returning to our motel, he watched the replays of the races we'd bet on.

As I told him our bets all lost, he was waiting for the likes of a Makbye Diva to swamp on one of the selections as it was length's clear with precious little to go before the finishing post.

The selection had won, paying $8.50 the win. Fortunatley, he'd kept his ticket.

The next morning, families in tow, we were all off to another 'world' of some sort. So, I was powerless to do anything until around 3.00pm the next day.

Went back to the Pub TAB where they'd scanned my supposedly 'dud' ticket, and initially they were pretty unhelpful. My $200 ticket was worth $1700, so I was fairly insistent. The supervisor, who turned out very helpful contacted the Brisbane TAB office where after a few questions it was determined that I hadn't made a mistake. There had been three $200 bets the day prior at 10.17am on three horses - and I could name the other two.

But, unfortunately, what I was also told was the 'dud' ticket had already been cashed at Jupiter's Casino TAB at exactly 11.00am when the TAB opened.

So, I was effectively told "tough titties". I had no recourse whatsoever.

Now, I'll never know the 'truth' here. Maybe the operator made a mistake and threw the ticket in the bin. Maybe the cleaners, 'cleaned up'. Maybe the operator thought she'd be able to get away with it..... as she'd well and truly have done if not for my mates insomnia?

But, I've an eye for the detail. When passing the tickets to the operator, the computer screen was pointed her way. I had no way of knowing whether or not the tickets were losers or winners. Simply had to take her word for it.

Seemed like a poor method to me.......likely to put temptation in harms way.

Anyway, they say that 'all's well that ends well'. After that mucking around in the TAB for an hour or so and ending $1700 out of pocket, that night we headed off to the Casino. Nowadays, I don't like Casino's much at all, but I'm a fair blackjack player, know the count etc. I had a $1700 target that night, and on reaching it, was stumps for me......off to the bar I went!!

There's got to be a moral to this story.

Either don't be too keen to find the results, or remember your reading glasses!!
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Old 5th May 2005, 09:24 PM
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I 'm a qualified TAB operator in W.A and any tickets that are slightly damaged in any way will show up as a corrupt ticket and a manual imput is done which will give a payout figure so my guess is she ripped you and my advice would be for the dept of racing and gaming investigate it.
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Old 5th May 2005, 11:19 PM
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I have a question for you if you are an operator you know how it works....would the system when scanning the ticket record some where on a database that the ticket had been scanned and the result of that first scan....if there is no system like this then bwheatle would have a hard time proving anything because he could have thrown the ticket away before even scanning it.....i guess one way to avoid rip offs is to ask for the losing tickets back to check them manualy your self
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Old 6th May 2005, 08:57 AM
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Default Nice story Bwheatle

Very interesting stuff, marko, thank you !

Excellant stuff, love the target of 1700 to the casino, your like me, if you get ripped off, some one and i dont care which gambling mob it is will pay, its time to be smart and focus, love your work.

Your story reminds me of a classic, exactly the same as yours, i nearly forgot it.

Years, probabally ten years ago i and a mate who owns race horses in central west NSW (some good ones) were together down here, we went to Paramatta for the day and ended up putting a few dollars on some "good things". Being in the know, ol mate was betting a fair bank, things were coming in at 15/1, you know the type.

This day and i remember it so clearly, we stood out this very popular horse at the time for a tri over the whole feild, and there were about sixteen runners!, we went half. i wont say which one because the TAB in question might get some repocussions, anyway, after a nail bighter, it come up and won by a half a whisker and the tri was about 5500 units, same thing, nil pay.

Long story short, ol mate thought i duded him, went home pi#%ed of with me, didnt speak to me for about three weeks until i rang him with the good news that i had kept the ticket and i had contacted TAB, they ended up paying.

Thing was,.....i had to be REALLY insistant, to the point of making a scene at the TAB for the operator to "find" the ticket in the bin and hand it back,

wonder whats going on ?

cheers all dingoboy
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