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Old 25th May 2012, 05:49 PM
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Default Hair-brained idea + dog lover = ?

2 questions to 'dog lovers', as follows:

Given that ~
a. I am good for generating odd-ball ideas for picking winners
b I obviously know nothing about greyhounds

IS it possible that due to the mechanics of how dogs run together, skittle each other etc, certain box numbers are more inclined to come up together in the frame, irrespective of the odds or expected outcomes or specific tracks etc?

Is is also possible that these same boxes are generally underbet by punters?


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Old 25th May 2012, 07:48 PM
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Interesting question.
Back some years ago when trifectas were introduced into NSW specifically. A professor from a local university would attend Harold Park(pacing & dogs) - Wentworth Park (dogs), with his students with an idea of quantitatively analysing uncertainty, looking for an answer that could describe information and uncertainty in the language of probability theory.
This was a humble start to what is now called UNhandicapping factors.

Some of his work was actually used each Friday night in the evening paper in the centre racing gold guide.

Basically it involved the splitting of the quinella combination's into two groups, then tracking each individual combo in each group then finding the average losing sequence an algorithm was applied to this sequence which would provide a target number of losing days for each combo, once a combo had reached this point, an investment was triggered on selected quinella combos and extending into trifectas.

It is worthwhile to investigate, but once you realise the potential, thats when you will start looking for the big Lotto pools etc around the place as the fertile places for investment.
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Old 25th May 2012, 08:29 PM
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Very interesting answer.
Thanks for the detailed input and background.

MG1,MG7 come to mind. I understand that these are just as likely to be completely random number combination outcomes, but I see a pattern in 1st vrs (2nd & 3rd) which I have seen before.

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Old 25th May 2012, 09:23 PM
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Interesting question.
Back some years ago when trifectas were introduced into NSW specifically. A professor from a local university would attend Harold Park(pacing & dogs) - Wentworth Park (dogs), with his students with an idea of quantitatively analysing uncertainty, looking for an answer that could describe information and uncertainty in the language of probability theory.
This was a humble start to what is now called UNhandicapping factors.

Some of his work was actually used each Friday night in the evening paper in the centre racing gold guide.

Basically it involved the splitting of the quinella combination's into two groups, then tracking each individual combo in each group then finding the average losing sequence an algorithm was applied to this sequence which would provide a target number of losing days for each combo, once a combo had reached this point, an investment was triggered on selected quinella combos and extending into trifectas.

It is worthwhile to investigate, but once you realise the potential, thats when you will start looking for the big Lotto pools etc around the place as the fertile places for investment.

woof43 Pray tell. we need a bigger clue than unhandicapping.
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Old 25th May 2012, 09:55 PM
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intereresting about dogs as few years ago i walked along straight at sandown to first turn and was amazed at advantage the red dog has from boxes ( box 1) over sprint ..note last night 2 wins 5 places ( r7-1 paid 9.40 place ) you cant leave out of exotics ..cheers
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Old 25th May 2012, 10:29 PM
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Angle Park has similar.
It a pretty strong box 1 bias for the 515m and 600m events, where box 8 is a real death trap! Railers are also seen to advantage. Plenty of interstaters find their way here, and its an easy track to handle 1st up. Watch for the frontrunners to weaken noticeably more in the summer months.
[taken from Surepick]
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