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Old 30th September 2002, 10:03 PM
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Sunline is a run behind this time in. She had every chance to win on Saturday and flopped. There's no way she can beat Defier and co. in the Cox Plate. Age has finally caught up with her.
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Old 1st October 2002, 09:55 AM
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The last time I made a statement like that was after Super Impose, going for his 5th big Randwick Mile, ran 4th (I think) behind the very overrated Kinjite. Of course next start he won the Canberra Cup & then the Cox Plate!
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Old 1st October 2002, 07:46 PM
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One ********** run doesn't end any horse's career.

Schillaci
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Old 1st October 2002, 09:35 PM
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I agree with Dusty Dude!!!

It's not that it was a ********** run by her EI , it just seems she is past her best.

Her first run back in NZ she only just got home in a grinding finish , in the past she would have won by a few lengths with plenty in reserve.

Then last start they absolutely went at snail pace considering it's a Group 1 race , and although probably not suited by having to sprint home like they did she just seemed to lack the fighting instincts she so usually has.

If i was a bookie i would most definitely have to lay her.
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Old 1st October 2002, 10:46 PM
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The slow pace of the George Main set it up for a swooper and I think they were nursing her a little as she had only had a trial since that New Zealand run.
Normally she would have carved out real fast middle sectionals and the slow pace resulted in her defeat.
Having said that she still should have won, but I wouldn't write her off just yet!

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Old 2nd October 2002, 07:46 AM
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Sunline needed the run - end of story. Her best this campaign is still to come! I also seem to recall some Northerly knockers after his 2nd run after a spell. :wink:
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Old 2nd October 2002, 10:50 AM
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If age has nothing to do with winning then why don't they keep horses racing when there 15 yrs old or 20 yrs old Tulloch?
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Old 2nd October 2002, 12:41 PM
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EI,

Doesn't a slowly run race normally make it difficult for swoopers to make up ground??? Sunline virtually dictated the race from the front, setting a slow pace that, 2 years ago, would have seen her win by the length of the straight.

Races are usually set up for swoopers when the pace is hectic up front, which certainly wasn't the case on Saturday.

It also highlights the top run by Excellerator.
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Old 2nd October 2002, 12:55 PM
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Reenster ,

Your point is well made , but some horses who like to lead such as Sunline run better when the speed is hectic and they can run there opposition of there legs.

These horses are more adaptable to these sort of races so when they get a slow run up front resulting in a sprint home they are sometimes blown away by a sprinter down the outside such as Defier did on Saturday.

Good jockeys like C Munce and D Beadman and the likes are very good at determining the speed of the race during the running and can therefore position there mounts in an advantageous position , such as what Munce did on Defier , he realised the speed was slow and knew if he was close to Sunline at the turn he would sprint her down which is what happened and if Lonhro got a clear passage down the straight it would have been a awesome show between Defier , Lonhro and Excellerator which i agree was a super run.

Would you agree with this summary EI?
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Old 2nd October 2002, 03:33 PM
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Absolutely.

The pace of the race did not suit her style at all.

The other point is valid - hectic pace swooper, slow pace leader.

However Sunline is a little different in that she tends to go best with a fast pace in the middle stages. That didn't occur, so Defier had her measure.
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