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Old 27th July 2005, 05:22 PM
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There is a theory that instead of backing runners in order of market prices at the trots, punters should give consideration to backing runners at the inverse market prices.
To be more specific, punters should consider those runners at the fourth to sixth line of betting and work back.
Only back those runners which show a gradual reduction in price utilising skychannel facilities.
I'm talking about the 10-12/1 shots which flash home in the last 300 metres and invariably pay excellent place dividends.
We'll see how it goes.

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Old 11th October 2005, 04:19 PM
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Does anyone bet seriously on the "red hots" these days?
Sure, I, personally, have a wager when it suits me, but I am always wary of this particular betting medium.
During the week, there are numerous opportunities to have a bet but for the unwary, this is a potentially catastrophic betting proposition.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this matter?

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Old 11th October 2005, 04:59 PM
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After today at Harold Park inclined to agree with you. In all serious the pools at Harness racing have increased in last few months probably because of the tvn mess up and most meetings are covered now on home sky and people do like betting on races they can see.
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Old 11th October 2005, 05:08 PM
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Yeah, there are a number of short priced favourites every meeting ....BUT....are they value and in the long-run, is it worth betting on this particular medium?
What about when a well-fancied runner inexplicably "breaks" and loses all chance of winning?
It happens all too often for the average punter to accept.
As far as turnover is concerned, shouldn't the authorities ensure that the betting public have confidence in the product?

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Old 11th October 2005, 05:17 PM
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With the system ive been using, backing short price favourites over the long run has turned into a disaster. Get a $1.20 favourite, a $1.50 favourite, a $1.30 favourite they all might win and thats 3 on the trot. But as soon as you have a loss, back to square one. You need a very high strike rate, and well 50% isn't good enough to make a profit. So i ditched the short price favourites, if i back them, its in the multi in a standout tri or exacta to get the value.
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Old 11th October 2005, 05:17 PM
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Anybody out there have any "horror" stories where the driver has sat motionless while fast finishing "swoopers" have "swamped" his/her runner and eventually ensured that this/your runner has missed a place?
Looking forward to any similar occurrences.

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Old 11th October 2005, 06:01 PM
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Today Xanadu...actually it wasnt the trots it was at hamilton race 6...i took a trifecta i boxed 4,6,8 and the race finished 8,6,9,4... the 4 was beat a nose and i swear the jockey just stopped riding.
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Old 12th October 2005, 01:58 PM
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IjuandaQLD, yeah it's frustrating isn't it? A similar example occurred in Sydney on Saturday but luckily the horse still won. The apprentice on board was chasisted by a leading trainer about "dropping his hands" on the line.
Don't some of these riders realise the volume of money wagered on some of their mounts and the importance of the finishing order to exotic bettors?
It's a worry as all we punters ask is that the horse upon which we have wagered is given every chance and that includes riding the mount out to the line even if it can't win.
Oaksnaf- it seems that you have no trouble finding winners at the trots but as you said it is difficult to win in the longterm backing shortpriced runners.
Could I suggest you give consideration to having an all-up bet on your three runners, either for the win or the place. Each new bet starts a new sequence, eg. if you had 5 winning bets in a row and you were having a three-leg all up you would achieve 3 successful sequences and should return a respectable POT, eg 123, 234,345...you could take your original stake out and only all-up your winnings so the worst you can do is to at least break even. At least this gives you a bit of insurance when wagering in this manner.

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Old 18th October 2005, 02:26 PM
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If anyone has any doubts about this industry just look at Harold Park Race4 today.....odds on favourite in small field ran third(NTD)......a true punters' minefield....say no more.

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Old 26th April 2006, 04:28 PM
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Does anyone agree that this industry is somewhat "tarnished" and warrants very close scrutiny from Federal officials?
I, personally, have stopped betting on this medium except for the occasional "certainty" bet(yeah...... right....... if there is such a thing!).
Speaking to other punters in the venues which I frequent I can assure you that the confidence of the betting public is very low.
Accordingly, shouldn't the State Govt hold an inquiry into what is happening in this "paradise" for some participants?
I'm looking forward to the opinions of other punters who wish to express their views and clear this industry of the stigma of "the red hots!"


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