Appreciate any feedback from our Perth based forum members (Sandgroper, Rain Lover, croft etc).

I like two horses at Ascot today, won't be fancy odds but I think both should win.

Race 2, like Avenida Madero no.1 Only problem is she has been beaten favourite at her last 5 starts, which is a bit of a worry!

Race 3, like Irish Pride also no. 1 but a big danger looks to be Stockie's Yarn!

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Lucky you caught me Paddy, just heading off.

Very quickly, have rated Avenida Madero on top, but not a lot in front of next 2 - Princess Neillena & Shirvic. Rickitave would be a good chance if allowed to lead without pressure. Nos 2 & 3 not without a chance.

Also have rated Irish Pride on top, main danger Royal Sonata. Nos 4 & 5 next bext. Dashing Scene some chance at value, if allowed to lead without pressure.

Good Luck.



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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-01-04 15:19 ]

Just cleaned up Sandgroper thanks to you.
Thanks, thanks, thanks :wink: X

Party, party, party!!! :grin: :lol:

WIN/PLACE
6 19.20 3.10
3...............1.80
4...............2.20

QUINELLA (3-6) 94.10
EXACTA (6-3) 278.40
TRIFECTA
(6-3-4) 1,977.10

(6) RICKITAVE (B.MATHIESON)
(3) LULUGUI (P.KING)
(4) PRINCESS NEILLENA (L.CAMILLERI)

Cheers Perth Placegetter, in the end finished well in front on the two Perth races, thanks to your feedback.

I see BettyBoop also did well, let's hope some other folk (that viewed the thread) also struck oil, although not likely to tell / thank you. As I said recently, they are a bit of a silent / unappreciative bunch lately.

I wonder what has happened to the other WA forum members, not seen any posting from them for a while.

Anyway just to complete the picture:

WIN/PLACE
5 2.80 1.90
1.............1.50
7............N.T.D

QUINELLA 2.80
EXACTA 7.00
TRIFECTA 17.40

( 5) STOCKIE'S YARN
( 1) IRISH PRIDE
( 7) ROYAL SONATA

Stockie's Yarn won by a len at 13/8 fav. from Irish Pride with Royal Sonata a close 3rd. Event a bit of a non event betting wise.

See Dashing Scene finished 4th at 33/1.

I see Rickitave started at 25/1.

That Avenida Madero sure is a costly horse!

Thanks my boyo, I really do appreciate your input, Sandgroper. :wink:

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Nice one Sandgroper - didn't have a bet on that race, but glad to see some people cleaned up - well done Betty Boop & Paddy - Box 5 tri - Cost ($60 for 1 unit) - Collect nearly two grand - hope you had some on yourself. Great work. Wish I'd got on the net later in the day yesterday to see your post. I think a lot of us keep a close eye on your selections, and appreciate you sharing them. As Paddy said I hope all who benefited show their appreciation.

Cheers,
Cosmo

Good to hear that some of the forum members shared in the spoils. I normally do check the forum first thing on Saturday, had a few things on last Saturday & didn’t get on until late. Almost didn’t clock on at all!

Yes I certainly did have some on myself Cosmo, including some nice over-the-odds running doubles. I see you also did well with your Bernborough Hcp selections Cosmo – well done!

It was a nice win by Rickitave who started well over his true odds. Was not hard to put up a case (even without ratings) for Rickitave in this race - the race itself lacked on pace opposition & Rickitave did beat Avenida Madero (short neck) back in June over 1300m at Belmont and was meeting that horse 1.5kg better on that run!

Avenida Madero, on paper, does look to have been disappointing (as beaten fav) in past five starts prior to Saturday, but in reality this mare has rated equal best or within 0.3len of best at four of those five starts, only performing substantially below her best, over 1400m at her last start prior to Saturday.

In essence the handicapper has had her measure (against the likes of Beautiful Bon Bon & Stockie’s Yarn – not bad cattle!) but the majority of the betting public have not realised it.

Interestingly connections introduced blinkers for this mare a few starts back. This has not brought about any improvement & may in fact be a factor in the below average performances at her last two starts.

In race 3 Irish Pride performed a little below best whilst Stockie’s Yarn improved further on his best rating, and as a result was able to beat Irish Pride by 1 len.

Did expect Dashing Scene to race more forward whilst fresh, but with a tearaway leader (Another Kite) who in the end brought himself undone (racing ungenerously), the jock may have decided to settle Dashing Scene more rearward that perhaps originally planned. Not a bad run to finish 4th, although well beaten.


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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-01-06 13:47 ]

Sandgroper,
some of the Geraldtown/Kalgoolie form didn't work out last weekend. Bit different at Ascot I know but a few were in weakish races and did nothing. Latest Sovereign,Red Ripples,Big Bank,Binnu Boy,Star of Angel(maybe something amiss with him).
How does Geraldtown compare with Mt.Barker form?
I thought Royal Minx put in a shocker.
Good run by Comeback Kid, one for soon.
Thanks.



[ This Message was edited by: red on 2003-01-07 05:22 ]

Good morning red,

Royal Minx did put in a shocker. I actually rated her a better chance in race 3,
but she was scratched from that race to run in the 7th.

Prior to Saturday she had performed well below her best at her previous two starts & was also withdrawn at the barrier in between those poor runs, when found lame in the near fore. Suspect all is not right physically with that mare.

If we use Tapdog’s recent city failure as an example, it does look like current Geraldton form is not holding up in the city.

Latest Sovereign's better form looks to be over shorter distances than 1800m in any case.

Amazed that Red Ripples was so short and I think he needed the run, and perhaps a couple of more.

In the last 12 months, Big Bank has failed dismally at his only other (two) city starts.

Binnu Boy’s run on Saturday was actually his best of only 3 starts in the city, so in retrospect his run was OK.

Star Of Angel has been racing well below his best up in Geraldton, although still competitive (there you go another sign that Geraldton form is a bit below par). Also need to remember that Star Of Angel failed at his last city preparation. Suggest he did go awfully amiss on Saturday.

Yes, good run by Comeback Kid, although I rated the run 1.25len below best, so there is still room for improvement.

How does Geraldton form compare with Mt.Barker form? Based on recent examples you would have to lean towards Mt Barker form being the stronger, but it really does depend on the class of cattle racing at those venues on any given day.


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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-01-07 09:53 ]

Further update red, STAR OF ANGEL was found to have bowed both fore tendons during the race on Saturday and has been retired.

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[ This Message was edited by: Sandgroper on 2003-01-09 15:25 ]

Hi Sandgroper and all, bit of a look at Ascot.

R2 looks skinny, not much speed on maybe Toy Prince and even Jugahtrice to go forward. Main Stage will be short but no bet from me.

R4 Metal as Anything improved big time last start and will probably find the fence again with little speed inside. But if odds allow I'll back both Mixed Lad and Regal Raider in an upset. The latter is a distance query. Tango Man probably wants longer now.

R5 a few queries. Fred Who wants Ebony Magic to accept here (she's also in R6). Island Light the other leader. Modem is more flexible and could race forward today, think he'll be first home, no flash odds though.

R6 good 40k F&M race. Twilight Spy will be deserved favorite but up to 58kg now.
National Silk ran a bottler over course/dist. 2sts ago, Lulugui ran on hard last start. A few other roughies make this a possibly good Trifecta race.

R7 another topweight probably favorite again in Fortune Streaker. With the claim is well in for a repeat win. Probably sit not far behind Coordinate/Royal Omen/Merlos. Poziere may not be well treated at weights against Coordinate but was wide all way last start.
Polish Pleasure to improve.

R8 Speed on with Lone Lover, Cougar Roar,Femme,Zabaset,Adarka Grey all like to be up on pace. Family Dreams looks perfectly placed. Camillieri has options. Real Storm was scratched midweek. Cougar Roar definately the class horse but I think better we see him win one again before backing him. Blinkers on Our Big Marcus.

Top day to all.