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Old 17th February 2012, 10:00 AM
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Default Don Scott Tab Return

Would anyone know the NSW Tab return for the final Don Scott raters.

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Old 18th February 2012, 04:11 AM
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What market position are you referring to.?

I know if one bets all Don Scott top 5, the Loss is only -5%

This means if one is successful deleting just one of those Top 5 , then we must be in Profit over say 150 races.
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Old 18th February 2012, 10:03 AM
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Interesting, I knew the top 5 performed well but not that well. I can work with that.


Im looking at win bets on the DS highest rater trying to get a good handle on what the tab return would be.
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Old 18th February 2012, 10:28 AM
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Working on something the last couple of weeks and have recorded these results>

DS-FR (all)
525 selections
115 wins

O 525
R 453.64 (NSW Tab win)
P -71.36 or -13.59%

With race filters applied>
306 selections
67 wins

O 306
R 295.44 (NSW Tab)
P - 10.66 or -3.48%


From what i can tell the strike rate is down about 2% on what is expected during this period.

Eliminating the races I have identified as poorly performing and taking the other bets to Betfair has turned a 13.59% loss into a 4.87% profit.
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Old 18th February 2012, 11:34 AM
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Dale,

You can check the don scott ratings against my system tester. I am not sure what your filters are but maybe I have them already on the site.

http://testyoursystem.000space.com/

If you want something specific tested I may be able to do it against my database if you post the filters here. My results only go back to August 2011 and are all betfair prices.

The top DS rating has the following results:

There were 58453 horse form lines in the database at this point in time. We update when we get time.

There were 5526 selections for the System
There were 5078 races for the System
There were 1288 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 23.31%
There were $5463.21 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-62.79 or a percentage profit/loss of -1.14%
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The Rules used were : donScottRank = 1
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Old 18th February 2012, 12:29 PM
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Hi Useless Bettor,

Those results are behind my current test, no filters and only a small loss, stands to reason simple and sensible filtering and you have something very solid.

Unfortunately the filters im using are not available on your page, you wouldnt have the tab return for those results would you?

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Old 18th February 2012, 12:40 PM
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Hi Useless Bettor,

Those results are behind my current test, no filters and only a small loss, stands to reason simple and sensible filtering and you have something very solid.

Unfortunately the filters im using are not available on your page, you wouldnt have the tab return for those results would you?

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I have them but not easily linked in. The reason is I only bet with betfair so concentrate on those figures more.
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Old 18th February 2012, 12:55 PM
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I have them but not easily linked in. The reason is I only bet with betfair so concentrate on those figures more.
UB
I have the races for this January about 1600 races Don Scott FR
No filters!
Win loss $170 & Place loss $152
that is Victab prices, don't know how much difference there would be between the Vic and the NSW Tabs?
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Old 19th February 2012, 10:30 AM
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I have them but not easily linked in. The reason is I only bet with betfair so concentrate on those figures more.


Thats ok UB, was hoping someone might have had them easily available.
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Old 19th February 2012, 10:33 AM
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Still looking for these figures guys.

The other stats provided here arent accurate enough for anyone taking this seriously.
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