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Old 1st May 2006, 09:45 AM
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Default Don Scott class rating figures

Are Don Scotts' class figures still relevent for this eras racing even after 25 years since last published , and is there anyone still using his figures instead of the ones put out by VRC or AJC ( i dont know if AJC have finished there updated figures yet !) , I would be interested to know if there any other class rating figures around or formulas to arrive at a class fig . Can anybody enlighten me on this .

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Old 1st May 2006, 10:29 AM
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I would be interested to know if there any other class rating figures around or formulas to arrive at a class fig . Can anybody enlighten me on this.


Why would you want to invent the wheel when there are now class figures available both from Racing Victoria, Racing NSW & the WATC that are an excellent base from where to start. These class ratings are provided and updated by professional handicappers and are as good as they get.
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Old 1st May 2006, 11:46 AM
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Hi, La Mer,

Would you be abel to point me and others that are interested toward the source of this information?
By that I mean where I could get these ratings?

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Old 1st May 2006, 12:05 PM
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Hi, La Mer, Would you be abel to point me and others that are interested toward the source of this information? By that I mean where I could get these ratings? Thank you Michal


Go to: http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/in...d=114&Itemid=16

and:

http://www.racingnsw.com.au/page.asp?parm=han.main

or:

http://www.waturf.org.au/html/racing/race_news.asp

look for rating based handicapping & the various policy documents which are similar but different according to local racing conditions.

Either one is a very good base to formulate personal ratings.
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Old 1st May 2006, 12:43 PM
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Hi, La Mer,

Would you be able to point me and others that are interested toward the source of this information?
By that I mean where I could get these ratings?

Thank you
Michal


I think La Mer misunderstood your question ['where could I get these ratings'?]. You won't get 'ratings' from any of those sites.

A good class guide is prize money contested [in most cases]. A horse that has won a $40k race is useually a better horse than one who's best effort is a $20k race etc. For the average punter who doesn't realize that a horse winning a C3 dosn't nessasarily mean that it is a classer horse than one that has only won a C1, as that would depend on where those races where won. Recent race prizemoney contested and won [in a race I mean, not a horses whole carreer] is always a pretty good class guide. Class ratings in Aust. are a massive road accident. 'Average earnings' arn't a bad class guide either.

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Old 1st May 2006, 12:46 PM
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I think La Mer misunderstood your question ['where could I get these ratings'?]. You won't get 'ratings' from any of those sites.

A good class guide is prize money contested [in most cases]. A horse that has won a $40k race is useually a better horse than one who's best effort is a $20k race etc. For the average punter who doesn't realize that a horse winning a C3 dosn't nessasarily mean that it is a classer horse than one that has only won a C1, as that would depend on where those races where won. Prizemoney is always a pretty good class guide. Class ratings in Aust. are a massive road accident.


Crash, you might be right I may have misunderstood, but in fact, as well as the handicapping policies & class tables, the actual handicappers ratings are available from all these sites.
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Old 1st May 2006, 04:44 PM
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La Mer,

Thank you, I have found what I needed.

Michal
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Old 1st May 2006, 05:05 PM
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Default scotts fig

Thanks to everyone who took interest in the topic , i still havent found what iam after , which is a shortcut to the class figure , i have looked at the VRC figs which i suppose i will use , must be getting lazy in my old age , i like everything easy ,

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Old 1st June 2006, 02:00 PM
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Hi ingust,

Scotts ratings have been updated to current race classes
in his "Winning in the 90's". I just go a copy from a second hand book store. I suppose they are the latest update on a system that will never be updated again.

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Old 1st June 2006, 03:08 PM
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thank you for your interest Michal , i have a copy of that book , But is anyone still using these figures with success ?

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