Hi all,
I have just joined the forum and think it is great.
I have 2 questions to ask if i may,

1. I have been testing a tipping strategy and after 3 months i have found that the place strike rate i think is working well at level stakes. Should i stick to level stakes betting or is there another staking plan which would give me better profits?

Could anyone tell me if the ************** racing software ( $100 a day) is worth getting and would provide enough of a profit to warrant buying it?

Regards,

Viper

Be careful of the ************** $100 a day plan. It is a loss chaser based on something as simple as dutching all horses from second favourite out until you can no longer achieve a 100% profit if one of them wins.

Each target is $10 so 10 completions are required per day to get your $100. You don't have to be Einstein to work out that 4 or 5 favourites or a mix of favourites and roughies in succession can lead to big outlays just to get the $10 ahead.

As for staking on placegetters, I think parlaying or rolling all-ups are a good way to accelerate profits if the strike rate is high and there is a flat stakes profit. If you are reasonable with excel you can write your own program - don't pay someone hundreds and hundreds to do it for you.

Try this on some past results.

CRUSHER STAKING PLAN
Bank needed $450
Start betting $1 per race until a place getter gets up , then increase bet to $2.00 if in profit start at $1.00 again.
If not in profit after the place getter gets up , increase to $3.00.

What one is doing ,is only increasing the bet after a place getter gets up e.g.
1,1,1,1,1,1P,2,2,2,2P,3P,4P,5P if in profit start again at the begining.

It should work a treat.

Cheers.

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Cheers.

Hey thanks guys for the help. I won't be buying the software i dont think.

Bhagwan would it be possible to email you some figures, i just tested the staking plan and would be grateful if you could have a look at the results for me, as this is the first time with racing i'm not sure if i did it correctly.

No software is required for the $100 a day Plan - just a $3 pocket calculator.

Cheers.
Darky.

Love the forum guys, have been watching, listening and learning but thought I'd throw my tuppence worth in on this post.



I don't know about you guys but I'll only have maybe one bet a day that I'm keen on and regardless of whether or not that wins, I always increase my stake the next day by 10% and continue on till I reach a specified target. For instance, back a horse for say, $20 @ 2.00 win = winnings = $20, next day bet is $22 and $18 in reserve or profit whichever way you choose. Works for me.

Bank Bet Div
450 1 1.21
450.21 2
448.21 2
446.21 2 1.6
447.41 3 1.32
448.37 4 1.64
450.93 1
449.93 1
448.93 1 1.74
449.67 2
447.67 2
445.67 2 4.26
452.19 1 1.53
452.72 1
451.72 1 1.32
452.04 1 2.28
453.32 1
452.32 1
451.32 1
450.32 1 1.96
451.28 1 1 .21
451.49 1 1.85
452.34 1
451.34 1 1.20
451.54 1 1.11
451.65 1 2.07
452.72 1 2.70
454.42 1 1.50
454.92 1 3.00
456.92 1
455.92 1 1.21
456.13 1
455.13 1 1.06
455.19 1 2.17
456.36 1
455.36 1
454.36 1 2.24
455.60 1 1.11
455.71 1 1.21
455.92 1 1.32
456.24 1 1.43
456.67 1
455.67 1 1.75
456.42 1 1.53
456.95 1
455.95 1
454.95 1 3.33
457.28 1
456.28 1
455.28 1
454.28 1 1.53
454.81

ouch! if you look at those results it makes you wonder why you put yourself through that many races for that much profit.
trouble is how many races is too many.
we have so much to bet on in one day it makes this game even more difficult
ya just gotta keep pluggin along!!!

Dear Mr. Lord Viper. (the Dark One)
This should show a profit using the CRUSHER with a 61% SR of yours.
And it did .

There was no threat to the bank at any stage & thats what a punter likes to see.

Up to the last completed sequence, there was ...
O/L $108
Ret $129.89
Prof +21.89 = +20% POT (profit on turnover)
Av. Div $1.46

Original starting bank of $450 has been increased by 5% .
Not bad for a game thats said to be hard to win at ,with a negetive level stakes return.

This is considered to be good if win betting & very good, if place betting.

Compared to Level Stakes Betting
O/L 44.00
Ret 40.93
Loss -3.08 = -7% LOT (loss on turnover)


Div--.O/L----Bal
1.21--1--- +0.21
L-----2--- -1.79
L-----2--- -3.79
1.60--3--- -1.99
1.32--4--- -0.71
1.64--5--- +2.49 In Profit , start again.

L-----1
L-----1
1.74--1--- -1.26
L-----2
L-----2
2.13--2--- -3.00
1.53--3--- -1.41
L-----4
1.32--4
2.28--5--- +6.27 In Profit, start again.

L-----1
L-----1
L-----1
1.96--1
1.21--2
1.85--3--- +0.93 (keep going , less than 1.00)
L-----4
1.20--4
1.10--5
2.07--6-- +4.65 In Profit , start again.

2.70--1---- Keep going.
1.80--2-- +3.30 In Profit ,start again.

3.00--1---- Keep going.
L-----2
1.21--2-- +0.42 Keep going, less than 1.00
L-----3
1.06--3
2.17--4-- +2.28 In Profit , start again.

L-----1
L-----1
2.24--1
1.11--2
1.21--3-- +0.09 Keep going
1.32--4-- +1.37 In Profit ,start again.

1.43--1
L-----2
1.75--2-- -0.07
1.53--3-- +1.53 In Profit, start again.

L-----1
L-----1
L-----1
1.53--1
L-----2 Sequence to be continued.

Out of interest Lord Viper , can you say what selection method you like to use?

Cheers.

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Cheers.

Hey thanks Bhaqwan i must have miss calculated i didn't get a profit LOL
My selections i use are Neural ratings, anything above a certain rating is the bet.

I made a rule to add to my selection process and it cut a lot of loosing bets out so i will trial both and see what happens.

What would you reccomend 100-150 bets? per series.

I am trying out your place getter from 2 as well.


(The Dark one)