Has anyone tried making a dollar from the U.S. races? Betfair churns them out all night (and early morning); but there is little (no) mention of them in these posts?

And, while speaking of Betfair, those English races (common) of over a $1 Million invested ---- does that mean Betfair are taking in 5% of half that on every race? Boy if they are then it is little wonder that they are getting awards for economic development and achievment.

You can make money from the US - particularly as the tote takeouts have been reduced by most states. It is best to bet with an offshore operator for multis, although they cap payouts, which is no good for superfecta or pick 6 wagering. The best of the offshore operators is Pinnacle which offers rebates of between 5% and 7%. Ehorse is another. The key to winning in the US is to monitor the win pools in the last 2 minutes. Like some states of Australia, if you follow jockey / trainer combo's or jockeys and trainers with high strike rates you can generally make a reasonable earn. Another key factor is understanding the race handicapping. I generally only bet on the A class tracks such as Santa Anita, Del Mar, Hollywood, Oak Tree, Oak Lawn, Churchill Downs, Arlington, Hawthorne, Turfway and Gulfstream Park and NYRA tracks - Saratoga, Aqueduct and Belmont during the northern summer.There are arbing opportunities with Betfair, BetDaq and more recently Ehorsex. I don't do form, ratings or handicapping. I average around 7% profit p/a. An excellent site (free data) for statistics is thorostats.com. Good luck if you intend venturing into US racing.

Good info.
I'm looking at overseas punting possibilities too. There is just not enough punters here to maintain a decent standard of racing for the number of weekly meetings run. Low standard racing [including Sat. for most of the year] has created a very difficult handicapping mish-mash, as very few horses have any form or class consistency from one prep. to the next [Just look at the rubbish races and horses to try to pick a winner from today. Wed.].

The whole show here has become one big mess and the new rating handicapping system has all the owners and trainers outraged while leaving us punters even more clueless.

Thanks guys for the replies.

Am with you in most of what you say, Crash. I was just thinking that there must be something one can do with all the races that apparently take place over there!

Thanks for all those thoughts, too, Scraggerwest (wherever did you get that name?). They give me a lot of starting points for what I will need. Appreciated.

Yep, been at it for a while now.

As Crash already elluded to, the quality and consistency here is insufficient, particularly midweek, to sustain my interest and profitability. However between decent Provincial, Metro and the U.S a few little nuggets 'o gold can easily be found. I use Pinnacle too and find them to be as good as any, have heard of eHorse but never used them myself.

However i'm a form student, tried and true, and find "racereplays" and "TSN" to be sufficient providers of the required info. Scragger's list of tracks is spot on. Their is enough quality racing at these tracks on any given day to be worried with the others.

Might have to start a U.S racing thread soon.

Best of luck.

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Thanks, Mad. Interesting!