is that this place is so quiet these days because most who have posted here over the years are that busy turning a quid now we have that wonderful new toy to "play" with called bf?

In my case yes, Stugots.
I no longer do form or look for winning methods that limit my betting.
I am just doing the numbers and don't have time to do anything else between four countries of racing.

For myself, I'd rather have 1,000 bets a week with 30% POT than 2 bets, it all comes down to turnover, but more importantly steady consistent returns.

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Here, here!

I should add to my reply, that it's not all beer and skittles....

Getting set at a good price is very difficult with some guys offering just silly lay odds about horses. How they carve a profit out of it, I just don't know.
When you regularly offer 6/1 about a 3/1, the balance has to go backwards.

I've also made some very bad blunders along the way.

Not to mention lack of sleep!

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thats the side of the market i have been having a bit of success with crome, & yes there are some (many) around that want to lay at any old price, forcing me to either offer a similar generosity or pass on the race, with the latter the usual option

frustrating but with a truck load of patience there’s still plenty of opportunities presenting themselves

stugots,

That is oh so true!
I have been taking advantage of both sides with some success also.
When these guys offer silly odds, I just reverse my strategy when the over gets to a certain level.

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