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Old 9th December 2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Hong Kong Sunday

HK's biggest racing day of the year, with the likes of Miss Andretti, Dylan Thomas (world's highest rated active turf horse), Viva Macau, Viva Pataca, Floral Pegasus, Vengeance of Rain etc all going around, should be a great day

Race 1: 3 One World*, 6 Sure Joy, 10 Double Luck, 12 Rocket Power
Race 2: 1 Sir Ernesto*, 3 Gold Striker, 8 River Jordan
Race 3: 2 Inspiration*, 4 High Point, 12 Step to Win
Race 4: 1 Absolute Champion, 2 Benbaun, 3 Sacred Kingdom*, 13 Miss Andretti*
Race 5: 1 Dylan Thomas*, 2 Quijano, 3 Red Rocks, 4 Doctor Dino,
Race 6: 1 Win Practitioner, 2 Dash Ahead, 5 Mutual Fun*
Race 7: 6 Floral Pegasus*, 7 Good Ba Ba, 10 Excellent Art, 13 Darjina
Race 8: 1 Ramonti, 2 Vengeance of Rain, 3 Viva Pataca*
Race 9: 1 Excellent Boy, 2 Skyview Bar, 5 Sunny King, 7 Joy and Fun*
Race 10: 1 Singing Diners*, 3 Shangdong General, 4 Eight Plus Nine, 14 Special Days

EDIT: * represents top pick in each race

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Old 9th December 2007, 10:37 AM
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HK's biggest racing day of the year, with the likes of Miss Andretti, Dylan Thomas (world's highest rated active turf horse), Viva Macau, Viva Pataca, Floral Pegasus, Vengeance of Rain etc all going around, should be a great day

Race 1: 3 One World*, 6 Sure Joy, 10 Double Luck, 12 Rocket Power
Race 2: 1 Sir Ernesto*, 3 Gold Striker, 8 River Jordan
Race 3: 2 Inspiration*, 4 High Point, 12 Step to Win
Race 4: 1 Absolute Champion, 2 Benbaun, 3 Sacred Kingdom, 13 Miss Andretti*
Race 5: 1 Dylan Thomas*, 2 Quijano, 3 Red Rocks, 4 Doctor Dino,
Race 6: 1 Win Practitioner, 2 Dash Ahead, 5 Mutual Fun*
Race 7: 6 Floral Pegasus*, 7 Good Ba Ba, 10 Excellent Art, 13 Darjina
Race 8: 1 Ramonti, 2 Vengeance of Rain, 3 Viva Pataca*
Race 9: 1 Excellent Boy, 2 Skyview Bar, 5 Sunny King, 7 Joy and Fun*
Race 10: 1 Singing Diners*, 3 Shangdong General, 4 Eight Plus Nine, 14 Special Days



hi chuck
good luck with those
what does the "*" represent mate?
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Old 9th December 2007, 10:53 AM
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top pick in each race, probably should have made that clear
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Old 9th December 2007, 11:46 AM
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Hard to go past Miss Andretti ,,she looks fantastic,,2.60 is short enough but i like her and think she'll give that track record a shake..
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Old 9th December 2007, 12:12 PM
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i think its very difficult to split Miss Andretti and Sacred Kingdom.....SK's last run was very impressive, barely broke a sweat, and has the home turf.....but i think MA just has the class advantage, the only problem being she has never run clockwise apart from her work in quarantine...should be a great race
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Old 9th December 2007, 01:13 PM
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sunny sing looks a great chance today.
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Old 10th December 2007, 10:15 AM
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Chuck

Nice going....i hope you dont get audited by the A.T.O though with "7/10 winners"

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Race 1: 3 One World*, 6 Sure Joy, 10 Double Luck, 12 Rocket Power
Race 2: 1 Sir Ernesto*, 3 Gold Striker, 8 River Jordan
Race 3: 2 Inspiration*, 4 High Point, 12 Step to Win
Race 4: 1 Absolute Champion, 2 Benbaun, 3 Sacred Kingdom*, 13 Miss Andretti*
Race 5: 1 Dylan Thomas*, 2 Quijano, 3 Red Rocks, 4 Doctor Dino,
Race 6: 1 Win Practitioner, 2 Dash Ahead, 5 Mutual Fun*
Race 7: 6 Floral Pegasus*, 7 Good Ba Ba, 10 Excellent Art, 13 Darjina
Race 8: 1 Ramonti, 2 Vengeance of Rain, 3 Viva Pataca*
Race 9: 1 Excellent Boy, 2 Skyview Bar, 5 Sunny King, 7 Joy and Fun*
Race 10: 1 Singing Diners*, 3 Shangdong General, 4 Eight Plus Nine, 14 Special Days

EDIT: * represents top pick in each race

One World* Unp
Sir Enesto* Unp
Inspiration* 2nd
Sacred Kingdon* $2.00w
Dylan Thomas* unp
Mutual Fun* 3rd
Floral Pegasus* Unp
Viva Pataca* 2nd
Joy & Fun* 3rd
Singing Diners* Unp

1 winner 10 outlay 2 return. if you wanted us to back all your selections as your taking credit for then its -3.2 return.
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Old 10th December 2007, 10:56 AM
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Let's not take anything away from Sacred Kingdom's win.
All the big money here was on SK because on form, it's a better horse than MA.
Crash,
SK wa the better horse under the conditions, on the day, no doubt about it...and donkey licked them to boot.
The 'on form' bit >> i dont know how you can compare the form but perhaps you can so....
I would have put some influence of the market down to home crowd hero & reports of MA 'stirred up' all day...

Now..... your opinion, & i'm not after a debate as until the day ever came we can do all the yacking about it with no evidence. However >>> With Lee saying the horse was stirred up all day and didnt handle the way of going in race conditions and taking the travelling factor into account >>> If MA + SK were to race in Australia under MA conditions e.g. travelling SK over here and make her go her unnatural way of going in Melb..who do you think would win? Do you think SK is the better horse out of Hong Kong?

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Old 10th December 2007, 04:32 PM
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Crash,
SK wa the better horse under the conditions, on the day, no doubt about it...and donkey licked them to boot.
The 'on form' bit >> i dont know how you can compare the form but perhaps you can so....
I would have put some influence of the market down to home crowd hero & reports of MA 'stirred up' all day...

Now..... your opinion, & i'm not after a debate as until the day ever came we can do all the yacking about it with no evidence. However >>> With Lee saying the horse was stirred up all day and didnt handle the way of going in race conditions and taking the travelling factor into account >>> If MA + SK were to race in Australia under MA conditions e.g. travelling SK over here and make her go her unnatural way of going in Melb..who do you think would win? Do you think SK is the better horse out of Hong Kong?


Out come the excuses for MA. If MA had the perfect run with all the chances going for her, she would have been beaten by a better horse. Anyone who had actualy done the form would have agreed and I'm sure the big money on Sacred Kingdom did the form!

My rating source had Sacred Kingdom [57kg] on 22 points, Miss Andretti [55.5kg] on 17 points along with Royal Delight [57kg] on 17.

Form: Sacred Kingdom had 8 starts at the track for 7 wins and 3 starts at the distance for 2 wins. Win rate 87% Place 87%. Average earnings of $770,300 per race. Best time over the 1200m distance on a good track: 1.07.50 [last start]. Average over 3 runs on good 1200m 1.07.79


Miss Andretti: Career starts 28:19-3-2 (W 67% P 86%. This distance [1200m] 18:13-1-1
Average earnings: $625.500. Best time over 1200m. 1.07.74 Average over 3 runs on good 1200m: 1.09.33

MA taking out track records over there? Pigs might fly first.

From the above form, it doesn't take Rocket science to work out why the big money was on
Sacred Kingdom. A faster horse on average by more than 1/2 a dozen lengths!

It wouldn't have mattered if MA had had 6 mths to settle in. SK is still on the way up after only 8 starts. MA is slower now and will never get any better after 28 starts. Will go on to win more money but not against SK over 1200m.

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Old 10th December 2007, 05:11 PM
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if we reversed the situation ,, Miss A (fresh) around Moonee Valley ?? would be interesting...
I know alot of people are bagging Froggy but after watching the replay she just never seemed to travel ,,,
thought Viva Pataca unlucky,,just didnt want to go between horses and then the gap closed,,,real good horse and hope he comes to Oz next year..
great Ride on Good Ba Ba ,,like this jockey...

I'm struggling in my own backyard to pick winners ,,dont know why the heck i was having a go over there
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