Hi there I am new to this forum and am a weekend punter who uses speed ratings as a starting point for picking horses. As I work full time and have 3 young kids, my form study is typcially on a Friday night over a bottle of wine or a few beers. I make my selections on FridaY night but then check the odds on the Saturday and bet online after considering the value of my selections. As I use speed ratings I try to keep to shorter distance races in Sydney Melbourne and Perth. Lately I've been trialling dutch betting where I bet two or 3 horses in a race, and adjust my bet size according to the odds just prior to the race.

My question is this? is there a standard way of pricing a field, and is ther a successful method of then betting the 'overlays' ina race?

Do you have any of your ratings from yesterday? If you post a race, perhaps we might be able to show you.

One way that can work is...
. Target fields of 8-9 runners only

.1200m & less

.Target no more than 5 runners.

.Multiply the pre-post price by .90
e.g. $6.00 pre-post x .90 = $5.40

.Bet all the overs by dividing your price into ones base amount .
e.g. Base amount $10 divided by say $5.40 = O/L $1.85

. Bet the ones that are at least 1pt. greater than your price.

Use Betfair Trader Pro, its free (Google RacingTraders) to use these fractional amounts on Betfair.

Cheers.

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Cheers.

If you are dutch betting i guess you are only looking at your top raters ,,you could do something like this..
Give a final rating out of 10 ,,,

Horse RTG Calculation Winning chance
Makybe Diva 7 ....... .. .7/19 X .8 29.5
Lonhro 7 ....... .7/19 X .8 29.5
Sunline 3 ....... .... .3/19 X .8 12.6
Kingston Town 2 ........ ...2/19 X .8 8.4
total 19

Makybe Diva 100/29.5 price $3.40
Lonhro 100/29.5 price $3.40
Sunlne 100/12.6 price $8.00
Kingston Town 100/8.4 price $12.00

This helped me alot when i started out,,,got it from a site somewhere ...
The .8 is of course framing the market at 80% ...taking into account the horses not listed ,,this would also be in a 10-12 horse field...i'd go alittle higher in a smaller field and smaller in a larger field..

Hope this helps,,but if you search this forum you'll find heaps of helpfull articles..

Thanks Maverick, I pride myself on my maths ability but am a bit lost here so will ask stupid question #2 for the evening - does the 19 denominator in each calculation mean there are 19 horses in the field?

Thanks Mverick, it seems a little subjective but I suppose as long as you are consistent then that doesn't matter.

Thanks Bhagwan, can I ask a stupid question here? what do you mean by base amount? do you mean units of betting, ie when you use the example of $10, you are using a $10 bet as an example?

This spread sheet mite help with the pricing, picked it up of the net somewhere, its for a field of ten, I have one sheet for fields 5 to 20 don't use them but mite help you.

Attached Files

260_10.xls (36.0 KB, 852 views)

Crackone,

Would you be kind enough to give a list of what each heading is and what figures you would enter.

It is probably obvious but I can't see it.

Thanks

Will try as I said haven't used it
Bar - Barrier
Wt/Min- just the weight?
3LSV third last start not sure what the v (could be price) is for.
Days ago- how long from last start
L/S B/M- last start beaten margin
$$$u/d/s - race prize money up down same
LSD +/- last start distance + or -
W/100?- I think should be winning %

If you unlock the spreadsheet and unhide the columns you can see the calculations it may help also (you could change it to suit your own needs)