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Old 11th December 2009, 12:02 PM
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If anyone has a Unitab D.B. would you be able to check out this system?

1) 100 pointer.
2) Minimum of 8 runners.
3) Won last start.
4) At previous start finished 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

Over the past 7 days there were 16 selections for 11 winners totalling a return of $35.40, and 14 placegetters totalling $25.70.
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Old 11th December 2009, 03:54 PM
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Michael,

From a seperate little database I have...

878 selections

246 winners - S/R 28.02% - Return $861.20 - Loss $16.80 - LOT 1.91%

499 placings - S/R 56.83% - Return $809.84 - Loss $68.16 - LOT 7.76%

Maximum win dividend $15.80
Average win dividend $3.50
Minimum win dividend $1.00 (deadheat)

I think it has legs betting Top Fluctuation.
Dividends used were Unitab.
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Old 11th December 2009, 05:09 PM
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Hi Chrome & Michaelg,

What happens if you eliminate all city meetings? A quick look at the past 11 days improved the returns when I did this. I do not have a data base to work on so it's "longhand" for me!
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Old 11th December 2009, 06:56 PM
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Hi, Try.

I noticed Sat results had 5 selections for no winners and 3 placegetters for a return of $4.40 but I assumed it was just coincidence. However it might not be so.

Chrome, thanks for the results. If possible could you delete city meetings as Try suggested?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 11th December 2009, 07:07 PM
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Sorry, I only have city meetings for Unitab raters.
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Old 11th December 2009, 07:36 PM
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Thanks, Chrome.

Even the city meetings show promise so I'll keep a record of the results and selections and will list them here so we can see how they go. However, I'll identify city and non-city races. There's one city selection tonight:

Moonee Valley R6 no.11 - Trajet.
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Old 13th December 2009, 08:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
If anyone has a Unitab D.B. would you be able to check out this system?

1) 100 pointer.
2) Minimum of 8 runners.
3) Won last start.
4) At previous start finished 2nd, 3rd or 4th.

Over the past 7 days there were 16 selections for 11 winners totalling a return of $35.40, and 14 placegetters totalling $25.70.
OK I have some figures for you, from Feb. 2008 Metro only

381 horses (some would be under 8 runners)
115 winners 30.18% SR Return Unitab $375.35
218 placed 57.21% SR Return $354.90


428 that won the last two starts
143 winners return $259.80
268 placed return $393.04
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Old 13th December 2009, 09:14 AM
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Thanks, Crackone.

It's interesting to see that your results are quite similar to Chrome's 878 races in that there is a slight loss with each-way betting on Unitab.

With NTD races I'm assuming they're not profitable, this is solely based on other methods I've looked at. If this is correct, then your LOT might be not as "bad" even though Chrome's results did omit NTD races.

And it is also interesting to see that those that won their last two starts have suffered a loss close to 50% on Win betting but surprisingly not with Place betting. Win betting has a strike rate of 33% but the divvies must have been extremely skinny - I might now start to lay them.

Yesterday's non-city selection was the only loss since testing a week ago.

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Old 13th December 2009, 10:02 AM
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I would say that the horses that won their last two starts would be overbet.
I wonder about horses that won their last three starts?
Got me thinking.
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Old 13th December 2009, 10:30 AM
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Quote:
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I would say that the horses that won their last two starts would be overbet.
I wonder about horses that won their last three starts?
Got me thinking.
Unitab 100
Won last three
162 horses
50 winners $120.60 return
103 placed $153.20 return
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